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Topic 9 of 29: Java & Javascript

Sat, Oct 3, 1998 (12:46) | Ray Lopez (ratthing)


talk about your experiences with Java!


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 Topic 9 of 29 [computer]: Java & Javascript
 Response 1 of 8: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Tue, Oct  6, 1998 (09:48) * 173 lines 
 
IBM's last desktop stand: Netscape yes, Windows no, OS/2 on it's own

By Sm@rt Reseller
October 5, 1998 4:28 AM PT

It's a software initiative that could decide who owns corporate

desktops for the next 10 years. More vaporware from Microsoft Corp.?

Hardly. This time, it's IBM Corp. taking the offensive.

Indeed, IBM (NYSE:IBM) has drawn up a strategic blueprint to transform

its enterprise business into an electronic-commerce powerhouse that

spans millions of corporate desktops. In addition to betting the bank

on Java, the blueprint calls for IBM to pump up Netscape's desktop

business, head off Microsoft's Web browser and aggressively push OS/2

Warp customers onto other platforms.

That strategy, outlined in a 12-page internal document from IBM's

Network Computing Software Division and viewed by Sm@rt Reseller, banks

heavily on buy-in from IBM's resellers and technology partners.

The IBM document, dated July 30, was posted briefly on an independent

OS/2 Web site last week. IBM was none too pleased about the leak. Jeff

Smith, director of OS/2 Business Line Management and Network Computing

Software, successfully petitioned the Web site's manager to remove the

document but was unavailable for comment.

While Smith wasn't talking, the document spoke volumes about IBM's most

pressing business concerns.

In a worst-case scenario, Microsoft (Nasdaq:MSFT) could cripple IBM if

Bill Gates & Co. succeeds in making Windows an e-commerce standard

containing proprietary application programming interfaces. The document

says that Microsoft's Internet, Zero Administration Windows, Windows CE

and Windows-based terminal efforts are designed to prevent the

widespread adoption of Java "by extending Windows with the key features

required to support network computing."

What does all that mean? In a nutshell, the paper says IBM is striving

to keep corporate desktops open by teaming with Netscape Communications

Corp. (Nasdaq:NSCP) to position Java applications against Microsoft's

COM/DCOM object model, "which locks customers into Windows on both the

client and the server."

Java majority by 2003
IBM hopes to ensure that 50 percent of PCs in 2003 are capable of

running 100% Pure Java applications. "We will accomplish this by

helping Netscape remain a major player on the desktop and ensuring the

100% Pure Java applications will run in Microsoft's Internet Explorer,"

the document says.

But Microsoft isn't the only company keeping IBM up at night. IBM's

software strategy also identifies two surprising names that could

undermine Big Blue's massive e-business offensive: Cisco Systems Inc.

(Nasdaq:CSCO) and Network Associates (Nasdaq:NETA).

IBM fears that Cisco may succeed in transforming its Internetworking

Operating System and Microsoft's Active Directory into a networking

platform "for building and deploying value-added services."

That's precisely Cisco's plan. "We respect IBM and its e-business

efforts, but it missed the boat on networking and desktop OSes," says a

Cisco exec who requested anonymity. "Cisco and Microsoft are a natural

combination for e-commerce."

Network Associates challenges
Network Associates, meanwhile, is rapidly emerging as a premier

supplier of enterprise security and management software-a market

reality that threatens the viability of IBM's Tivoli subsidiary.

To combat those threats, the paper says IBM needs to establish Java as

the de facto industry standard for building, deploying and managing

e-business applications. The company also must build a high-growth

business helping customers extend their networking infrastructure to

support e-business across heterogeneous systems. Along the way, IBM

hopes to provide best-of-breed networking infrastructure technology.

IBM's strategy banks heavily on support from resellers, ISVs and key

vendor allies, such as Netscape, Novell Inc. (Nasdaq:NOVL) and Sun

Microsystems Inc. (Nasdaq:SUNW).

On the reseller front, IBM says that 75 percent of fulfillment for

eNetwork PC and Unix products is through the channel, but only 10

percent of the company's resellers are actively selling those products.

It also identifies specific target resellers for certification and

active selling as IBM systems and network integrators, Novell Platinum

resellers, and Microsoft SNA Server Solution Providers.

Backed by its partners, IBM hopes to have 50 percent of new apps built

on Java by 2003, and it wants to make Java a standard on 50 percent of

new client devices (smart phones, etc.) by 2001.

IBM's plan without its challenges. For starters, IBM says Netscape must

maintain at least 30 percent of the browser market.

Otherwise, "ISVs will drop support, customers will start moving to IE

and the battle for the client will be lost," the document says. IBM

already is formulating a backup plan to "protect its server business,"

just in case IE tramples Netscape on the desktop.

OS/2 biggest loser
The biggest loser in IBM's Java initiative is OS/2. The document

confirms that IBM will continue cutting OS/2 R&D. "Eventually,

customers will have to move to another platform or accept a lower level

of function if they stay on OS/2," the document says.

Still, resellers seeking an alternative to Windows may forgive IBM for

scrapping OS/2, if Big Blue makes good on its e-business and Java

promises.

Reported by Ed Sperling, Joseph C. Panettieri, Esther Schindler and

Deborah Gage


 Topic 9 of 29 [computer]: Java & Javascript
 Response 2 of 8: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Tue, Oct  6, 1998 (09:48) * 71 lines 
 
IBM's plan for domination


By The staff, Sm@rt Reseller
October 5, 1998 5:07 AM PT

IBM lays out its five-step Java plan...:

1. Promote Netscape: Help Navigator maintain at least a 30-percent

share of the browser market.

2. Partner With HP: Both will promote embedded Java.

3. Keep PCs Open: Ensure that at least 50 percent of PCs in 2003 can

run 100% Pure Java applications.

4. Target Internet Explorer: Help Sun enhance Activator, which supports

100% Pure Java apps on Microsoft's Web browser.

5. Think Thin: Make at least 50 percent of new client types (set-top

boxes, etc.) support 100% Pure Java apps by 2001.

...But Big Blue has six potential problems:

1. Java Isn't Proven: Network Computing Software Division Strategy "is

based on several unproven emerging markets."

2. Strategic Partners: "The entire industry must behave like a single,

focused competitor to Microsoft. It is difficult and time-consuming to

keep the coalition together."

3. ISVs: "IBM does not have a good track record with independent

software vendors."

4. Internet Explorer: "If Microsoft dominates the browser, it will make

it difficult for us to succeed."

5. Java Funding: "Netscape and Sun are faced with their own financial

challenges and are not able to fund their 'fair share.' "

6. Cost/Complexity Of Heterogeneity: "Our costs will be higher and our

margins lower than Microsoft." ...And undermines OS/2

1. Slash R&D: IBM has "significantly reduced investments" in OS/2, and

predicts that there will be a "continuing competitive erosion of OS/2

as both a server and a client."

2. Reduce Partnerships: There is "a continued decline in OS/2 support

by our solution partners and other IBM divisions."

3. Move OS/2 Customers To Java: "Eventually, customers will have to

move to another platform or accept a lower level of function" from

OS/2.

Source: IBM Network Computer Software Division Strategy document.


 Topic 9 of 29 [computer]: Java & Javascript
 Response 3 of 8: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Tue, Oct  6, 1998 (10:14) * 5 lines 
 


terry, just out of curiosity, how does this news affect what you
do for a living?



 Topic 9 of 29 [computer]: Java & Javascript
 Response 4 of 8: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Oct  6, 1998 (21:52) * 2 lines 
 
It's the project I'm working on.



 Topic 9 of 29 [computer]: Java & Javascript
 Response 5 of 8: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Oct  9, 1998 (00:47) * 1 lines 
 
Thomas is going to school on Java for an IBM affiliate right now...


 Topic 9 of 29 [computer]: Java & Javascript
 Response 6 of 8: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Oct 10, 1998 (21:25) * 1 lines 
 
ok, i finally mosey'd on over here and i still don't know what java is about *grin*


 Topic 9 of 29 [computer]: Java & Javascript
 Response 7 of 8: Rev. Thomas H. Smith  (CotC) * Mon, Nov  2, 1998 (12:50) * 5 lines 
 
Howdy,

Check out http://www.alphaWorks.ibm.com/Home

There's some kinda nifty Java hoohah a'goin' on over there.


 Topic 9 of 29 [computer]: Java & Javascript
 Response 8 of 8: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Nov  2, 1998 (14:21) * 2 lines 
 
That's a good site along with http://www.gamelan.com


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