POSTDOCTORAL RESEARCH OPPORTUNITIES IN GEOCHEMISTRY USING LASER ABLATION
ICP-MS TECHNIQUES
SCHOOL OF GEOSCIENCES, MONASH UNIVERSITY (MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA).
Expressions of interest are sought for postdoctoral research fellowships in
geochemistry in the School of Geosciences at Monash University, working
within the Trace Element, Isotope & Environmental Geochemistry Research
Group (Drs. Ian Nicholls, Ian Cartwright and Steve Beresford; Professor
Reid Keays; plus a new academic staff member expected to be appointed in
the field of isotope geochemistry/geochronology in early 2002).
Monash Geosciences currently operates a Finnigan-MAT "Element"
high-resolution ICP-MS instrument for ppb-ppm level trace element analysis
using solution and laser ablation modes (the latter with a Merchantek
Nd-YAG laser), and has supporting "clean laboratory" sample preparation
facilities. Monash is a member of the Victorian Institute of Earth &
Planetary Sciences (VIEPS) consortium (Schools of Earth Sciences at
LaTrobe, Monash and Melbourne Universities) and has access to a joint VIEPS
"Nu Plasma" multicollector ICP-MS instrument, soon to be fitted with a
state-of-art ablation chamber and excimer laser system. The "Element" and
"Nu Plasma" will provide powerful complementary facilities for in situ
trace element/isotopic analysis of single minerals, and their mineral, melt
and fluid inclusions, with emphasis on studies in igneous, metamorphic and
ore petrology/geochemistry/geochronology. Such research is often joint with
the minerals industry.
The Geochemistry group is seeking to attract post-doctoral candidates with
experience in techniques and applications of laser ablation ICP-MS
analysis, with continued development of these within VIEPS in mind. The
Australian Research Council annually offers several categories of
postdoctoral and more senior research fellowships, applications for the
next round of which are due in February 2002, for 2003 awards. Since
outlines for excellent research projects are required as part of
applications for these awards, interested researchers are invited to begin
discussions on suitable projects now. Those interested should contact Dr.
Ian Nicholls at: inicholl@mail.earth.monash.edu.au.
Information on The School of Geosciences at Monash University, with a link
to VIEPS, is available at www.earth.monash.edu.au. Information on ARC
Post-Doctoral and Research Fellowships is available at:
www.monash.edu.au/resgrant/grantinfo/ARC/arcdispr.html and
www.arc.gov.au/ncgp/discovery/projects/default.htm
Dr. Ian Nicholls
Deputy Head, School of Geosciences
PO Box 28E
Monash University
Victoria 3800
Australia
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Response 12 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (00:17) * 2 lines
Oddly enough, when Wolfie finds this catch-all topic we can discuss the how wonderful it is to breathe air you can chew, and why iti s called "Orange County" I discovered that the only thing about the county is the color of the smog there. I don't trust air I can see quite that well.
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Response 13 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (06:50) * 1 lines
LA is in Orange County?
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Response 14 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Nov 14, 2001 (15:19) * 1 lines
Nope, Los Angeles is its own county. I'm not all that sure anyone else wants it! I'd need to look at a current county map to see where the bakc air of LA stops and the toxic orange stuff of Orange County begina. Alas, all of the trees are now gone which were once the namesake of Orange County.
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Response 15 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Nov 21, 2001 (14:53) * 3 lines
No Comment on the new title page of Geo? More changes to come as soon as I get Terry to enable me to change my own buttons, wallpaper and horizontal bars. As it stands now, stroud and yapp icons are now in charge of them.
*UNHAPPY*
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Response 16 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Nov 27, 2001 (18:28) * 1 lines
Deja Vu time on http://www.archives.org when you look up www.spring.com. Were we ever that young? Seems only yesterday! I love seeing it again! Never mind reading my early posts, please!
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Response 17 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Dec 2, 2001 (16:43) * 18 lines
Thunder and lightning kept me from posting this yesterday on December 2nd.
HAUOLI NA HANAU, LOPAKA AND KELE
Tuberose / Lantern
Ilima
White tuberose mixed with
orange ilima blossoms.
Very fragrant.
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Response 18 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Dec 2, 2001 (16:46) * 3 lines
Rob is officially responsible for himself (meaning he is fair game?!) and Terry is too (has been for a while, he says.) I really like that lei. It is spectacular and what I wanted to wear to my son's wedding in October.
Many Happy Birthdays to come. Your Buggatis are on the way.
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Response 19 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Dec 2, 2001 (16:53) * 1 lines
Tuberoses smell gently like gardenias for those of you who have not had the pleasure of their company around your neck. Of course, I have to kiss you when I put it on you. It is tradition! Hugs, too.
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Response 20 of 1049: Anon (curious) * Mon, Dec 3, 2001 (13:23) * 3 lines
In re post 15 above, specifically "No Comment on the new title page of Geo?"
I like much better than what was up when I first joined.
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Response 21 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Dec 3, 2001 (15:56) * 1 lines
I'm still working on it. Actually, what I hope to have when I can create the right font and find the correct globe is jus to have large letters GEO with the O being the globe. Thanks for your comments!
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Response 22 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 5, 2001 (18:54) * 1 lines
I have found the ultimate globe. It is posted. Post holiday title will make it formal, diginified and aesthetic. I hope!
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Response 23 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 5, 2001 (18:59) * 1 lines
I also need to put the yellow letters back on the buttons. White is the wrong color. May I use a magic marker on your monitor? It'll only take me several lifetimes to do it... *sigh*
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Response 24 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Dec 5, 2001 (22:30) * 1 lines
did you save the old buttons, marcia? if so, you can use lview to resize them and still have the yellow letters.
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Response 25 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 5, 2001 (22:31) * 1 lines
Yes, I did save the original buttons and I will resize them just as I did the "kill" button. I just need to do it.
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Response 26 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Dec 5, 2001 (22:35) * 3 lines
*giggle* i know the feeling!
curious, how long have you been a member of spring?
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Response 27 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 5, 2001 (23:06) * 3 lines
1997 was my first post - October I think. You have been here longer?
Thank you, John, for slowing down my world. I was spinning too fast!
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Response 28 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, Dec 6, 2001 (19:38) * 1 lines
oh sweetie, i was asking curious anon how long they've been visiting us! i think you've been here longer than me!
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Response 29 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec 6, 2001 (19:52) * 2 lines
I am curious, also! - about how long people have been lurking before posting. I found Spring, then I read posts to see how people were interacting, then plunged in - all in the space of one week. Nan was kind enough to welcome me and make me feel at home. I've been here ever since. I did not, however, wander out of the close-knit confines of Drool for at least a year. I thought you "down" here were all so different from me.
Surprise!!!
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Response 30 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 7, 2001 (20:14) * 6 lines
I am hiding this post in case I am so terribly wrong that it is hopeless and I have lost a dear friend and wise man's respect. Is this the arrangement you meant? It is not as I remember our earlier conversation. What puzzles me is why I am in the middle and the sensors are each side of me. Must each be attched to me directly as in this lampstand? Independently connected so as not to interfere with each other's signals? Please be patient with me. I am just a learner as most of the rest of my readers are.
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Response 31 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Dec 11, 2001 (15:33) * 30 lines
For those who celebrate: Enjoy your Holiday of Eid.
Significance Of Eid
'Eid means recurring happiness or festivity. The 'Eid prayer is very important for all Muslims. It has the
merits of the dory prayers, the effect of the weekly convention (Jumu'ah) and the characteristics of annual
reunions between Muslims. There are two such 'Eids.
The first is called 'Eid-ul-Fitr (the Festival of Fast Breaking). It falls on the first day of Shawwaal, the tenth
month of the Muslim year, following the month of Ramadhaan in which the Qur’aan was revealed and
which is the month of fasting.
The second is called 'Eid-ul-Adh'haa (the Festival of sacrifice). It falls on the tenth day of Zil-Hijjah, the
last month of the Muslim year.
The Islaamic 'Eids are unique in every way. To them there can be nothing similar in any other religion or
any other socio-political system. Besides their highly spiritual and moral characteristics, they have matchless
qualities:
Each 'Eid is a wholesome celebration of a remarkable achievement of the individual Muslim in the service of
Allah.
The first 'Eid comes after an entire month of "absolute" fasting during the days of the month.
The second 'Eid marks the completion of Hajj to Makkah, a course in which the Muslim handsomely
demonstrates his renouncement of the mundane concerns and hearkens only to the Eternal voice of Allah.
more (follow links)... http://www.islaam.org/Eid/Eid-1.htm
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Response 32 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 12, 2001 (17:09) * 25 lines
'Tis the Season. I'll be posting traditions here. Have you any special ones you celebrate in your family?
HOW MANY U.S. FAMILIES WHO PUT UP A CHRISTMAS
TREE OPT FOR AN ARTIFICIAL TREE?
22% of U.S. families choose an artificial tree.
WHERE DID THE TRADITION OF DECORATING A CHRISTMAS TREE BEGIN?
The first recorded documentation of decorating a Christmas
tree was in 1604 in Strasburg, Germany. Decorating Christmas
trees appeared as a tradition in the U.S in the mid-1800's
and has evolved over the subsequent 150 year period to the
production and distribution system we know today.
WHY WAS THE NATIONAL CHRISTMAS TREE NOT LIT IN 1979?
The National Christmas tree was not lit except for the top
ornament in 1979 in honor of the American hostages in Iran.
In 1963, the National Christmas tree was not lit until
December 22nd because of a national 30-day period of mourn-
ing following the assassination of President Kennedy.
WHAT WAS CONSIDERED THE TALLEST CHRISTMAS TREE?
The tallest living Christmas tree is believed to be the 122-
foot, 91-year-old Douglas fir in the town of Woodinville,
Washington.
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Response 33 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 12, 2001 (17:15) * 85 lines
CHRISTMAS TREE
The Christmas tree is a symbol of immortality, resiliency, longevity, and rebirth. Taoists once believed that if a pine's resin was
allowed to flow down its trunk and onto the earth, a fu-lin or mushroom of immortality would grow from it in 1000 years. Eating
the fu-lin would give a person eternal youth.
Growing tall as it weathers the hardships of wind, snow, and rain, the pine tree in the forest symbolizes long-suffering, steadfast
friendships, and enduring fame. The pine's strength in the face of adversity makes it symbolic of those who have become strong
through suffering, or who have kept to their beliefs and promises in spite of opposition. In Scandinavia, a myth of enduring love
surrounds a certain pine. It is said that this tree grew from the blood of two lovers who had been wrongfully executed in the forest.
During the Christmas season, strange lights can be seen shining in its branches as a testimony of their innocence and love.
One Christmas Eve in 8th century Germany, the missionary, St. Boniface, gathered newly baptized Christians together to renounce
paganism by cutting down the sacred oak they once sacrificed under. As it fell, the oak split into four pieces revealing a young pine
growing in its center. Boniface suggested that the people take this pine as a symbol of their new-found Christian faith because it's
shape points toward Heaven, and it's evergreen foliage reminds us of eternal life.
In Rome, the immortal pine was used to celebrate the spring festival of Arbor intrat. Each year on March 22, members of the cult
of Cybele cut down a pine tree and carried it to the Palatine temple. There, it was bandaged, wreathed with violets, and mourned
as if it were the body of Attis, son of Cybele, who, disturbed by his mother's attentions, had castrated himself and died beneath a
pine tree. His soul was believed to have found refuge in the pine and his blood caused violets to spring up around it. Three days
later, he was miraculously restored to life. Egyptians, on the other hand, used the palm tree as an image of resurrection and
decorated their homes with its branches during the winter solstice.
The vertical symbolism of the pine tree was emphasized by Christians. This tree, which forever pointed heavenward, was a
reminder to seek out heavenly rather than earthly treasures. It was a symbol of the saints, their self-denial, and their patience. A
meet Christmas symbol, the tree was also a symbol of communication and mediation between heaven and earth because it's roots
reached into the earth and its branches soared into the heavens.
Today, one can still see the Jesse-tree. Most popular during the 13th century, this nativity tree was decorated to look like the
family tree of the Christ Child. Adam and Eve are displayed at the foot of the tree and Jesus rests at its top. The wicked serpent is
entwined around its trunk. This tradition may have come from the Messianic prophecy: "There shall come forth a Rod from the
stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots." [Is 11:1]
The Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge from the Garden of Eden were blended together in many customs and legends about
the fir tree. Adam and Eve Day was celebrated on December 24th. During the Middle Ages it was customary to perform Paradise
Plays on the Church grounds on this holiday. A single fir tree strung with apples was used to symbolize both of the garden's trees.
Legend states that the fir is the Tree of Life. When it was created, it had flowers, leaves, and fruit like other trees. But when Eve
ate of the forbidden fruit, these shrunk into the needles and cones we see it bear today. The fir did, however blossom briefly on the
night of Christ's birth. It also bears the name "Tree of Life" because it is believed to have been the tree upon which Christ died.
French and German legend calls the Christmas tree the "Tree of Humanity." One Christmas Eve, Bonchevalier found a pine tree lit
up with candles and having a star at its top. Some of the candles stood upright, while others hung upside down. His mother told
Bonchevalier that this was the "Tree of Humanity." The upright candles represented good people, while the inverted candles stood
for evil people. The star at the top was the Christ Child watching over the entire world. Such a tree reminds us to be like our
Father in Heaven who sends the sun and rain to nourish both the righteous and the unrighteous. [Mt 5:45-46]
Jacob Riis records that Christ sent Faith, Hope, and Love to choose the first Viking Christmas tree. They chose the Balsam fir for
this honor because it was as wide as God's love, as high as the Christian's hope, and it bore the shape of the cross on every
branch. The pine is one of the trees God planted in the desert to give shade to the thirsty; to prove His power over the elements;
and to show His care for the needy. [Is 41:17-20]
When the Holy Family was running from Herod's soldiers, a hollow old pine tree hid the exhausted family in its trunk for a night. In
the morning, the Christ Child blessed the pine with His little hands. Because of this, it is said that by cutting a pine cone lengthwise,
we can see the prints of the Infant's hands to this day.
During the New Year holiday, the Japanese place a pine tree on each side of the entrance to their homes as shelters for the kami
which they believe will bestow blessings upon their household. Perhaps these blessings include fertility, and the marital love and
fidelity symbolized by pine trees in many cultures.
According to Virgil, early Romans decorated pine trees with little masks of Bacchus (a fertility god). As the wind blew these
trinkets around, Bacchus was believed to grant fertility to every part of the tree the masks faced. During their midwinter festivals,
Romans also decorated with evergreens to shelter woodland fairies and gave small trees to their friends as New Year's gifts. Their
Mithraic "Tree of Life" was a pine in which birds and creatures symbolic of the souls of the dead or unborn lived.
Other ancient tree trimming customs include the Chinese sacred trees which were draped with red banners bearing prayers of
thanksgiving and praise. European Druids decorated oaks and pines with apples, candles, and cakes in the form of various animals
and birds as a thank offering to their gods of fertility, agriculture, and light. Greeks and Romans decorated the trees sacred to their
gods and goddesses with garlands of flowers and cloth. In Finland, Lapps filled little boats with bits of food and placed them in a
pine tree marked with sacred symbols. Then they killed a reindeer and placed its internal organs in another tree which they
smeared with the animal's blood.
Christian legend states that on the night of Christ's birth, in spite of snow and ice, all the trees of the earth blossomed for joy, and
bore fruit. In addition, all earth's rivers ran happily with wine. In honor of this legend, Austrians brought boughs of cherry,
hawthorn, and pear trees into their homes at the beginning of December and placed them in jars of water so they might blossom in
time for Christmas.
Another popular story claims that one stormy Christmas Eve, a forester and his family heard a knock at the door of their cottage.
Opening the door, they discovered a little child whom they fed and bedded down in spite of their poverty. In the morning the
sound of an angelic choir awakened them. Their visitor was the Christ Child! As a reward for their hospitality, He tore a branch
from a nearby fir and planted it in the ground. Immediately, it grew and was covered with fruit, nuts, gold, and lights. The Christ
Child promised this tree would forever provide for the forester's family in winter.
With thanks: http://ww2.netnitco.net/users/legend01/xmastree.htm
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Response 34 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 12, 2001 (17:21) * 83 lines
~*~The Date of Christmas~*~
The idea to celebrate Christmas on December 25 originated in the 4th
century. The Catholic Church wanted to eclipse the festivities of a rival
pagan religion that threatened Christianity's existence. The Romans
celebrated the birthday of their sun god, Mithras during this time of year.
Although it was not popular, or even proper, to celebrate people's
birthdays in those times, church leaders decided that in order to compete
with the pagan celebration they would themselves order a festival in
celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. Although the actual season of
Jesus' birth is thought to be in the spring, the date of December 25 was
chosen as the official birthday celebration as Christ's Mass so that it
would compete head on with the rival pagan celebration. Christmas was
slow to catch on in America. The early colonists considered it a pagan ritual. The celebration of
Christmas was even banned by law in Massachusetts in colonial days.
~*~ Mistletoe and Holly~*~
Two hundred years before the birth of Christ, the Druids used mistletoe to
celebrate the coming of winter. They would gather this evergreen plant that is
parasitic upon other trees and used it to decorate their homes. They believed
the plant had special healing powers for everything from female infertility to
poison ingestion. Scandinavians also thought of mistletoe as a plant of
peace and harmony. They associated mistletoe with their goddess of love,
Frigga. The custom of kissing under the mistletoe probably derived from this
belief. The early church banned the use of mistletoe in Christmas
celebrations because of its pagan origins. Instead, church fathers suggested
the use of holly as an appropriate substitute for Christmas greenery.
~*~ Poinsettias~*~
Poinsettias are native to Mexico. They were named after America's first
ambassador to Mexico, Joel Poinsett. He brought the plants to America in
1828. The Mexicans in the eighteenth century thought the plants were symbolic
of the Star of Bethlehem. Thus the Poinsettia became associated with the
Christmas season. The actual flower of the poinsettia is small and yellow. But
surrounding the flower are large, bright red leaves, often mistaken for petals.
~*~ The Christmas Tree~*~
The Christmas Tree originated in Germany in the 16th century. It was
common for the Germanic people to decorate fir trees, both inside and out,
with roses, apples, and colored paper. It is believed that Martin Luther, the
Protestant reformer, was the first to light a Christmas tree with candles. While
coming home one dark winter's night near Christmas, he was struck with the
beauty of the starlight shining through the branches of a small fir tree outside
his home. He duplicated the starlight by using candles attached to the
branches of his indoor Christmas tree. The Christmas tree was not widely
used in Britain until the 19th century. It was brought to America by the
Pennsylvania Germans in the 1820's.
~*~ Xmas~*~
This abbreviation for Christmas is of Greek origin. The word for Christ in
Greek is Xristos. During the 16th century, Europeans began using the first initial of Christ's name, "X"
in place of the word Christ in Christmas as a shorthand form of the word. Although the early Christians
understood that X stood for Christ's name, later Christians who did not understand the Greek language
mistook "Xmas" as a sign of disrespect.
~*~ The Candy Cane~*~
In the late 1800's a candy maker in Indiana wanted to express the meaning of
Christmas through a symbol made of candy. He came up with the idea of bending one
of his white candy sticks into the shape of a Candy Cane. He incorporated several
symbols of Christ's love and sacrifice through the Candy Cane. First, he used a plain
white peppermint stick. The color white symbolizes the purity and sinless nature of
Jesus. Next, he added three small stripes to symbolize the pain inflicted upon Jesus before His death
on the cross. There are three of them to represent the Holy Trinity. He added a bold stripe to represent
the blood Jesus shed for mankind. When looked at with the crook on top, it looks like a shepherd's
staff because Jesus is the shepherd of man. If you turn it upside down, it becomes the letter J
symbolizing the first letter in Jesus' name. The candy maker made these candy canes for Christmas,
so everyone would remember what Christmas is all about.
~*~ Santa Claus~*~
The original Santa Claus, St. Nicholas, was born in Turkey in the 4th century. He was
very pious from an early age, devoting his life to Christianity. He became widely known
for his generosity for the poor. But the Romans held him in contempt. He was
imprisoned and tortured. But when Constantine became emperor of Rome, he allowed
Nicholas to go free. Constantine became a Christian and convened the Council of
Nicaea in 325. Nicholas was a delegate to the council. He is especially noted for his love of children
and for his generosity. He is the patron saint of sailors, Sicily, Greece, and Russia. He is also, of
course, the patron saint of children. The Dutch kept the legend of St. Nicholas alive. In 16th century
Holland, Dutch children would place their wooden shoes by the hearth in hopes that they would be filled
with a treat. The Dutch spelled St. Nicholas as Sint Nikolaas, which became corrupted to Sinterklaas,
and finally, in Anglican, to Santa Claus. In 1822, Clement C. Moore composed his famous poem, "A
Visit from St. Nick," which was later published as "The Night Before Christmas." Moore is credited with
creating the modern image of Santa Claus as a jolly fat man in a red suit.
http://wilstar.com/xmas/xmassymb.htm
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Response 35 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 12, 2001 (17:28) * 58 lines
~*~*~ Greek Christmas Traditions ~*~*~
By Emma Nicolozakes
~*~ The Holiday Season~*~
The Holiday Season in Greece begins on December 6th, which is the Feast of
St. Nicholas, and ends on January 6th, the Feast of the Epiphany. Christmas
ranks as the second most important holiday of the year, superceded only by
Easter. Approximately 95% of all Greeks are members of the Greek Orthodox
Church, and as in the United States, Christmas is celebrated on December 25th.
Christmas is a religious, solemn holiday in Greece, and not as prone to
commercialism as it is in the States. A number of gifts are exchanged between
family members; but in lieu of large expensive gifts, many donations are made to
local orphanages and charities.
~*~ Decoration~*~
Christmas trees are not usually used in Greece. The traditional Christmas season
decoration is a small wooden bowl with a piece of wire suspended over the rim.
A sprig of basil wrapped around a wooden cross is attached to this wire, and a
small amount of water in the bowl keeps the basil fresh. Once a day, the cross is
dipped in Holy Water which is sprinkled around the house to ward off the
mischievous spirits, or Killantzaroi, who are said to play evil pranks on family
members throughout the twelve days of Christmas.
~*~ Santa Claus~*~
St. Basil is the Santa Claus of the Greeks. St. Basil's Day is celebrated on our
New Year's Day, and this is when the presents are exchanged between family
members. Although in the United States we often call Santa Claus "St. Nick", St.
Nicholas in Greece is the patron saint of sailors.
~*~ Carols~*~
During the Holiday season, children go from house to house singing kalanda,
the Greek equivalent of Christmas carols. The children are traditionally rewarded
with treats, such as dried figs, almonds, walnuts, and coins, and the kalanda
they sing are said to bless the house. In fact, the word "carol" itself comes from
the Greek choraulein, which is a Greek dance accompanied by flute music.
~*~ Food~*~
Food is an important part of any Greek holiday, and the Christmas season is no
exception. Traditionally pigs, lambs, and goats were served; today it is common
to have turkey. Christopsomo, the traditional Christmas bread, is shaped into a
round loaf and decorated with a cross. Around this cross are decorations
indicating the trade of the family. For example, if the main livelihood of the
family is fishing, the bread will be decorated with small fish designs. There is a
wide array of desserts served during the Christmas season. Some of the most
popular include melomakarona; cookies dipped in honey, diples, which are fried
dough cookies dipped in honey, and kourabiethes, small cookies dusted with
powdered sugar. Try my recipe for kourabiethes.
Kala Christouyenna!
(Merry Christmas!)
http://www.bellaonline.com/food_and_wine/food/greek/articles/art977072212685.htm
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Response 36 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 12, 2001 (17:34) * 9 lines
I'm hoping someone who knows (Ginny? John?) lets us know how correct the above Greek traditions are.
Wolfie and my daughter-in-law are my German tradition sources.
Maggie, will you add the English traditions I am most familiar with, please?
Any and all comments and traditions are welcome. Rob? What do the Kiwis do? The Maoris?
I'll supply Hawaiian traditions as best I can. We combine many nations' celebrations here. With snow falling on our mountains and cold air coming in my window, I feel very much in the spirit of the holidays. I especially like the Greek tradition of donating to charity for the holiday. That is also MY idea of the best Christmas gift of all that I can give.
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Response 37 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Dec 12, 2001 (20:58) * 5 lines
some of my german traditions got fangled up with anxious waiting children and what to do about them. for example, i was told that we celebrated christmas on christmas eve (the gifts). so i grew up thinking this was why we did it that way, even through my teenage/young adult years. i learned, upon a visit by my new husband (who opens gifts christmas morning) the true origination of the christmas eve exchange was revealed--me and my brother. we would get so excited we'd make ourselves sick! so every christmas eve, the family would pack up the car to go to services and my parents always had to run back in the house. upon our return, santa magically came to our house.
one thing we did celebrate with regularity was st nick's day--Dec 6. this was where we'd set a pair of shoes outside the door. in the morning, we'd find goodies in our shoes. i don't remember the origin of this tradition but have heard it called other things.
in my house, we spent christmas eve driving through ritsy neighborhoods to see how stingy they were with their lights (some weren't at all and they were marvelous displays) until the kids were sleepy. then we played santa.
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Response 38 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Dec 12, 2001 (21:00) * 1 lines
i meant to say, we spend christmas eve looking at lights. and we do the gifts on christmas morning followed by a big meal.
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Response 39 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 12, 2001 (23:10) * 3 lines
St. Nicholas, also called Nicholas of Bari, Nicholas of Myra, and Santa Claus, flourished in the 4th century in Asia Minor near the modern Turkish city of Finike. One of the most popular minor saints commemorated in the Eastern and Western churches, his feast day is December 6th. He is now traditionally associated with the festival of Christmas.
I will share my memories of Christmas tomorrow. Thanks Wolfie!
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Response 40 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 12, 2001 (23:12) * 2 lines
More about St Nicholas
http://www.umkc.edu/imc/stnick.htm
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Response 41 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, Dec 13, 2001 (21:02) * 1 lines
in my christmas memoirs above, i see that i forgot to mention that my parents told me it was german tradition to exchange gifts christmas eve (sorry if that was confusing)
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Response 42 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, Dec 13, 2001 (21:03) * 1 lines
oh, and here's something i suggest you NOT do....do not set up your video camera to capture santa because your children will need therapy when they get older *laugh* my husband did this one year and my son is convinced. but, i say let him believe as long as he can. heck, i still believe in the spirit of santa and the magic associated with him.
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Response 43 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec 13, 2001 (21:23) * 8 lines
Oh Wolfie, how funny. It reminds me of a story about my father catching Santa. I'll post that as soon as I toast my favorite composer's birthday
Thank you for providing the means by which my soul takes flight and my heart is stirred. Beethoven comforts my mind when all else has abandoned me. *Hugs*
(I think the real Beethoven would have cast scorn at me and sent me packing by now if I had dared to hug him!)
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Response 44 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Fri, Dec 14, 2001 (18:56) * 1 lines
well, you know how geniuses can be! (i love B too)
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Response 45 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 14, 2001 (20:24) * 3 lines
You're my twin - of course you love Beethoven, too. *grin*
Once upon a time, when my father was very young... (I promise to post it!)
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Response 46 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Wed, Dec 19, 2001 (11:02) * 9 lines
Hi all
Another cool topic on Geo - anyway, just wandering around and found
this topic which is why I like Geo above all topics - even radio
happy pre solstice
73 de Mike
AA9IL
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Response 47 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Dec 19, 2001 (22:18) * 1 lines
and to you cosmo!
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Response 48 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec 20, 2001 (18:06) * 5 lines
Way Cool Cosmo has joined the wandering minds that inhabit Geo. We're eclectic, of nothing else!
What do you do to celebrate the holidays? Link your boat anchor radios in parallel or series and fire them all up at the same time? I did that once! Back before there was much music available on radio, I could at least count of a rousing rendition of "God Save The Queen" from the provinces of Canada as they sidned off. On night I managed to tune two radios (tube with huge output speakers) and my head just between them. It wasn't stereo but it sure sounded like STEREO !!! I got the blast of my lifetime listeting and I think I can still hear it rumbling around in my head soemwhere. Sounded glorious to my hungry ears. Did anyone else do anything quite that foolish?
When are you getting an xfm or xam lashup for those long road trips?
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Response 49 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Thu, Dec 20, 2001 (20:18) * 21 lines
Hi yall
Well, Christmas will be up here in the cold climes - got the first
major snow shower to lend the look. Usually, I just fire up one
boatanchror rig to warm the room - either the R390A or SP600 - the
Collins has been getting most of the attention as of late. Anyway
the holidays are reserved for the usual family stuff prior to new
years lunacy plus I need to keep hacking on these transverter
projects to get them completed - the first contest of the year
is January but the big one is in June. For those long trips,
I do take my 2m/440 FM rig with me although I do remember working
mobile HF which is alwasy lots o' fun. Need to get a mobile
rig back in the truck - quite different from when I ran my
Yaesu FT101E in my El Camino back during my college years - it
drew so many amps that the alternator belt snapped - had to
limp home on the 12v battery alone.
Happy Solstice!
73 de AA9IL
Mike
r-c-i
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Response 50 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Thu, Dec 20, 2001 (20:21) * 13 lines
doh!
By xfm you mean the satellite service? I looked at the radios
- kind of neat but I really want shortwave in my truck so I can
listen to Radio Canada, BBC, Radio Nederland, etc while driving.
For music, I have my formidable CD collection - maybe someday
get the satellite service tho....
Fine biz on the eclectic minds - I at least like to think Im
eclectic sometimes....
73 de Mike
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Response 51 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec 20, 2001 (21:23) * 5 lines
I agree with you, Mike. Those new little satellite AM and FM receivers leave much to be desired unless you want to loop Art Bell for 24/7 and become VERY strange. Get a good transceiver for you car and a whip antenna with some pulling power. You don't want to get ripped off so make it invisble. My son put the button panel in the dash and put the works under his seat. It works great and he can flip the button panel over so it is totally unappealing. In his house, I never know how to turn things on. Often the goodies are three rooms away and he can station select and tune from the kitchen.
Hawaii has snow, Sunny Greece is under more than a foot of the stuff and you guys are still waiting for your share? Sant Claus comes to Hawaii on a surfboard and we leave a door open for him.
With John's permission I will post an impressive amount of snow covering his car. (There is also an amazing depressed-looking palm tree with its crown flattened by the weight of the snow. It looks so forlorn... At least when it snows in Hawaii, it keeps it up on the mountains and now down where people live. I am looking at it in a little soft cotton shirt. No shovelling.
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Response 52 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec 20, 2001 (21:43) * 5 lines
HAPPY WINTER SOLSTICE
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Response 53 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec 20, 2001 (21:46) * 6 lines
I can't wait till 31 December ! Look at what my ancestors were doing for fun while some of us will be getting hung over. I'm not sure who gets the worst headache!
Allandale Tar Barrel Burning, Northumberland
A version of burning out the old year, locals walk
down the street with blazing tar barrels on their heads.
Some of these are then thrown to light a bonfire.
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Response 54 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, Dec 20, 2001 (22:07) * 3 lines
what day is the solstice? is it tomorrow?? (i had heard that tomorrow will be the shortest day of the year)
great pic of stonehenge!
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Response 55 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec 20, 2001 (22:33) * 1 lines
Solsitice is when the sun appears to stand still and our ancestors didnot know if it would reappear and summer would follow, or if they would die a cold and miserable death of starvation in darkness. The lit bonfires and all sorts of other things to get the sun to come back. I'll find some to post. I suspect knocking on wood is not all that different from what they did.
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Response 56 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Thu, Dec 20, 2001 (22:36) * 14 lines
Howdy Howdy
Yep, tomorrow is the Solstice! Very cool picture indeed.
Today while walking to the train station in Chicago, there was
a perfect picture of the quarter moon visible between the
office buildings - I thought to my self: "Moon in the canyon"
The twilight was crisp and clear and the lights in the buildings
and trees did twinkle. This was one of those 'nice winter walks'
and no snow!
73 de AA9IL
Mike
r-c-i
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Response 57 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, Dec 20, 2001 (23:11) * 1 lines
too bad you didn't have a camera!!
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Response 58 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, Dec 20, 2001 (23:12) * 1 lines
(thanks for the info on the solstice)
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Response 59 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 21, 2001 (19:00) * 1 lines
Mike, you need to find Santa immediately and tell him you NEED a camera. You might be the Ansel Adams of the 21st century!
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Response 60 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 21, 2001 (19:04) * 17 lines
I neglected to tell WHEN the Winter Solstice is.
In the northern hemisphere, the Winter solstice is day of the year (near December 22) when the Sun
is farthest south. However, in the southern hemisphere, winter and summer solstices are exchanged
so that the winter solstice is the day on which the Sun is farthest north. The winter solstice marks the
first day of the season of winter. The declination of the Sun on the (northern) winter solstice is known
as the tropic of capricorn (-23° 27').
The winter solstice is the shortest day of the year, respectively, in the sense that the length of time
elapsed between sunrise and sunset on this day is a minimum for the year. Of course, daylight saving
time means that the first Sunday in April has 23 hours and the last Sunday in October has 25 hours,
but these human meddlings with the calendar and do not correspond to the actual number of daylight
hours. In Chicago, there are 9:20 hours of daylight on the winter solstice of December 22, 1999.
lots more... http://www.treasure-troves.com/astro/WinterSolstice.html
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Response 61 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Fri, Dec 21, 2001 (20:15) * 1 lines
so it's tomorrow then? 22 Dec and not 21 Dec....but today is the first day of winter!
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Response 62 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Dec 21, 2001 (20:58) * 2 lines
It depends on your time and locality when the sun reaches its southernmost point
For Hawaii it is definitely the 21st. For Greece it is the 22nd as it is for New Zealand and points east. There is a chart on that page url I posted, I think...
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Response 63 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Sat, Dec 22, 2001 (17:20) * 1 lines
ok, gotta go back and find that url!
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Response 64 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Dec 22, 2001 (18:19) * 3 lines
For an easy-to-understand explanation for seasons and why Rob in New Zealand is having summer while North America is having winter:
http://explorezone.com/earth/seasons.htm
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Response 65 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Sat, Dec 22, 2001 (22:41) * 1 lines
bookmarked that one, thanks sweetie!
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Response 66 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Dec 23, 2001 (22:36) * 1 lines
I think she is too big for the title page. I need a more dignified angel there, I think. But she is so sweet; I love her innocence and tenderness.
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Response 67 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Dec 23, 2001 (22:37) * 1 lines
Not YOU, Wolfie! You'd fit perfectly on the title page. I meant the angel I have installed. I will change her back to the star and look for a more stately Herald Angel that Mendelssohn wrote about.
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Response 68 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Mon, Dec 24, 2001 (11:42) * 1 lines
i've not even seen the angel yet *sniff*
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Response 69 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Dec 24, 2001 (14:46) * 7 lines
Mele Kalikimaka
Look at Crafts title page. The little angel was there last night when I closed out. Did she fly away? *Hugs* No sniffling on Christmas for my Wolfie-Twin. Only happy smiles allowed (yes, I know!) Please feel free to go use any of my seasonal files. I will email you with the url...
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Response 70 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Dec 24, 2001 (15:00) * 1 lines
JOHN!!! I really DO know how to do this. I just can't make them work and I did not have any separations between my graphics, my commands for the font or the words therein. This is tiresome, so I will not try it again until Next year!
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Response 71 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Mon, Dec 24, 2001 (18:13) * 1 lines
well, i don't care about the alignment, it was done with feeling and i love it! (i didn't venture into crafts last night but i did this afternoon and she's really sweet)
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Response 72 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Dec 24, 2001 (19:22) * 1 lines
*HUGS* Wolfie and Merry Christmas!! She really is sweet. We can thank John for slowing her down. When I found her she was positively frantic. Hugs to him, too for all his help with Craft and Geo-decorating
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Response 73 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Dec 24, 2001 (19:29) * 4 lines
Geo's Little Angel
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Response 74 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Dec 24, 2001 (21:23) * 37 lines
I'm not pretending about the snow on Mauna Kea:
http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanoes/maunakea/
Mauna Kea Hawai`i's Tallest Volcano
Tall cinder cones atop the summit of Mauna Kea (4,205m) and lava flows that
underlie its steep upper flanks have built the volcano a scant 35 m higher than nearby
Mauna Loa (4,170 m). Mauna Kea, like Hawai`i's other older volcanoes, Hualalai
and Kohala, has evolved beyond the shield-building stage, as indicated by (1) the
very low eruption rates compared to Mauna Loa and Kilauea; (2) the absence of a
summit caldera and elongated fissure vents that radiate its summit; (3) steeper and
more irregular topography (for example, the upper flanks of Mauna Kea are twice
as steep as those of Mauna Loa); and (4) different chemical compositions of the
lava.
These changes in part reflect a low rate magma supply that causes the continuously
active summit reservoir and rift zones of the shield stage to give way to small isolated
batches of magma that rise episodically into the volcano, erupt briefly, and soon
solidify. They also reflect greater viscosity and volatile content of the lava, which
result in thick flows that steepen the edifice and explosive eruptions that build large
cinder cones.
Glaciers on Mauna Kea?
Most people don't think about snow or glaciers in Hawai`i, but geologists have long
recognizd deposits formed by glaciers on Mauna Kea during recent ice ages. The
latest work indicates that deposits of three glacial episodes since 150,000 to
200,000 years ago are preserved on the volcano. Glacial moraines on the volcano
formed about 70,000 years ago and from approximately 40,000 to 13,000 years
ago. If glacial deposits were formed on Mauna Loa, they have long since been
buried by younger lava flows.
Even today, snow falls on both Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa. Both volcanoes are so
high that snow falls during winter months, perhaps accumulating to a few meters
depth. The seasonal snow cover on the steep slopes of Mauna Kea is easier to see
from coastal areas than on the gentle, rounded slopes of Mauna Loa, whose summit
cannot be seen from sea level.
more...http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/volcanoes/maunakea/
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Response 75 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Mon, Dec 24, 2001 (22:59) * 1 lines
i still can't believe it (though i know you didn't make it up) just doesn't go together--hawaii and snow (even in the mountains)......we could see the snow really good on top of a mountain range here (dunno the name of the mountain). didn't have my camera either or i could've shown you the effects of cooler air and a mountain range on smog. it hung eerily in the air with the mountains rising above it. too bad they don't make giant vacuum cleaners or hepa filters!!
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Response 77 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Dec 25, 2001 (21:28) * 1 lines
(You didn't expect me to get it right, did you? How I hate disappointing you!)
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Response 78 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Dec 25, 2001 (21:41) * 10 lines
Mele Kalikimaka
My Christmas is slowly ending as the rest of the world is on another day. My dinner with friends included a very typical Hawaiian eclectic mix of food and people. It has been a very nice day. I hope yours was, as well. For dinner we had rice, sushi, poke (raw fish Hawaiian style), seaweed in various delicious ways, fresh fruit of all sorts, raw vegetables in and out of salads, cheeses, tofu barbecued and other ways, traditional mochi (for good luck)rice cakes, olives, "pot stickers", egg rolls, ham, teriyaki beef, chicken, crab salad Hawaiian style, and so many more I cannot remember...
The people were not the students, this year. Instead, we had a wonderful mix of professors from the local University and
researchers from both the University and from Hawaiian Volcanoes Observatory. I caught such mentions of 45°F at the summit of Kilauea last night and carried on conversations with people I would happily spend many future hours. Discussions varied from hydroponic gardening to the ever-present Volcano, and Ah, yes, we also discussed the eating of dog in the Philippines and other curious food habits of the non-western world.
Many exchanged email addresses. I have, also. Perhaps Mitchell will look here. We discussed programming and websites and digital cameras among other things. Aloha, Mitchell, if you venture here. I enjoyed meeting you - also a transplant from New York.
The food was delicious; the company fascinating. I have had a wonderful Christmas. I hope yours was as pleasant. The only negative is heavy fumes in Hilo due to lack of air movement. It would not take much exercise to make my lungs hurt. Instead I will email a few people and smile in contentment. Thank you all for making my holiday so special. My special thanks to Miu and Bernie for being such good hosts and assembling so delightful a mix of people.
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Response 79 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Dec 25, 2001 (21:58) * 1 lines
*SIGH*
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Response 80 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Tue, Dec 25, 2001 (22:04) * 17 lines
Happy Holidays and Happy Solstice to All!
Hope everyone had a nice day - neat goodies on this end
but the most noteworthy for the list was the complete
Sci American Amateur Scientist CD rom with plenty of
projects and inpho. First great lightbulb realization
was an article on building seismic detectors using
accelerometer integrated circuits - very different from
my idea of a balanced pendulum with a 50000 turn coil
between the poles of a strong magnet but hey, it should
work! Lots of neat things to build with a danger scale
reading from no hazard to loss of life possible - of course,
I have to try building the proton accelerator (very dangerous).
73 de AA9IL
Mike
r-c-i
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Response 81 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Dec 25, 2001 (23:01) * 3 lines
Share your projects, Mike, Please! Seismo stuff? Oooh! Any of them buildable by normal people who solder their fingers together and burn holes in bedspreads? (My son, not I!)
Delighted you had such a wonderful day! I send you best wishes and gratitude for making yourself comfortable here. You're a very special guy. I'd love to see your parts department. My Dad had his all stored in amazing large metal cans and various little parts boxes. I kept my hands behind my back when I entered his sanctum sanctorum! But, I can still smell the fragrance of rosin melting on his soldering iron...
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Response 82 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Dec 25, 2001 (23:04) * 1 lines
I am a map reader of the first order. I got atlases and bound road map books this year. Plus a lovely 4 inch diameter globe made of semi-precius stone and mounted on a golden pedestal. It resides on my mantle piece now! I shall photograph it if it is possible to do so!
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Response 83 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Dec 26, 2001 (17:08) * 5 lines
oh marcia, i know the globe you're speaking of (although the ones i've seen were floor models) how wonderful!!!!
sounds like you guys had a lot to eat! i made a roast again and it was delicious. tried out my mom's bread dumplings but, practice makes perfect and they all fell apart during the cooking! *laugh*
hope everyone had a good holiday! *HUGS*
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Response 84 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 26, 2001 (18:46) * 5 lines
Falling-apart home cooking can sometimes be the best. It HAS to be better than solid concrete biscuits my sister served me one year! Sounds wonderful.
I'm busy trying to identify country and gemstone. This had to have been very difficult to make. I wonder how many people went blind making it. Australia is solid abalone shell. Beautiful !
I'm thinking of changing the dividers again. You'd think I'd leave well enough alone....
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Response 85 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 26, 2001 (23:04) * 20 lines
Space Station Christmas
December 25 -- Astronaut Cathy Clarke opened her
eyes and yawned. Mission Control was playing Jingle
Bells over the intercom for about the two hundredth
time. "OK," she barked into the microphone. "I'm
awake and I know it's Christmas!"
Cathy, one of the crew of the International Space
Station (ISS), was feeling homesick.
Back on Earth, she knew, her family was gathered
around the Christmas tree, sipping eggnog and opening
presents. Later they would radio from Houston, but
she yearned to be with them now -- not stuck in an
orbiting laboratory, 350 km above Earth, with no
Christmas spirit.
This is a wonderful story. Read it to your children! The rest of it is
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast21dec_1.htm
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Response 86 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Dec 26, 2001 (23:12) * 1 lines
the new bars are neat! and i noticed the wreaths as well!! concrete biscuits? *yikes*
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Response 87 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Dec 26, 2001 (23:38) * 1 lines
I am trying to prepare for the New Year and get back to undecking the halls. Ther is much good science going on. Saw 5 satellites and the ISS plus an iridium flare a few moments ago! The Hubble in an hour. Hi Mike! *HUGS*
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Response 88 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Dec 26, 2001 (23:43) * 3 lines
ok, how do you know what you're looking at? i can tell satellites from falling stars but that's it.
undeck the halls? you mean we have to take everything down? already!? but wait, we've got mardi gras season starting Jan 6th!
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Response 89 of 1049: Mike O'Quinn (Poubelle1) * Wed, Dec 26, 2001 (23:51) * 1 lines
Perhaps you would be so kind to help with a delima our marcie i was say calling her the mistress of the east ! ? or would she be considered the Mistres of the west!? she her self while joking about this says she is in the middle ! Pa Shaw! no one can be in the middle , so to her i suggested perhaps i could place a post here and all could vote if she is a mistress of the east or west ! we thank you for your time in responding to this delima in helping to be politicaly correct!! Poubelle1
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Response 90 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec 27, 2001 (00:25) * 5 lines
Mike! Congratulations on your maiden post! I am more than a little amazed and delighted to see you here! I'll keep a tally of the votes if there are any. Thanks for making the effort to login and all that! You've joined the HTLM programming cognescenti! Welcome. Feel free to wander around.
Perhaps assistant to the Mistress of the Volcano?
Wolfie, We have to bring in the new year..... and Epiphany... The decorations will stay up for 12 days of Christmas... with New Year celebrations also.
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Response 91 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec 27, 2001 (00:31) * 1 lines
When one lives in the semi-middle of an ocean near the international date line, I can't imagine what to call me! How about the lady with far too much curiosity ? I think it fits!
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Response 92 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec 27, 2001 (00:37) * 1 lines
Mardi Gras is definitly on the schedule. I expect Mike to help celebrate. He's an expert, I understand...
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Response 93 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, Dec 27, 2001 (11:49) * 1 lines
i say we call marcia the world mistress! *HUGS*
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Response 94 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Dec 27, 2001 (16:10) * 3 lines
*HUGS* Wolfie. Dobn't let Mike fool you. He is a story-teller of great expertise. Editing what he writes is both a pleasure and a challenge. Pou, did you expect some sort of concensus? I think no one will bother to vote except for my twin sister, Wolfie =) In any case, the true founding genius behind Geo who convinced me I could do it (he lied!) designated me "world builder" instead of host. I am still struggling to learn HTML programming and to make this conference worthy of your time.
I do rather like these bars!
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Response 95 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Dec 29, 2001 (21:28) * 29 lines
It is comforting to know Greece has a few traditions predating Christianity, just as the rest of us do.
From Christmas in Greece
http://www.gogreece.com/learn/christmas.htm
In Greek homes, Christmas trees are not commonly used, but
recently have become more popular. In almost every house though-
the main symbol of the season is a shallow wooden bowl with a
piece of wire is suspended across the rim; from that hangs a sprig of
basil wrapped around a wooden cross. A small amount of water is
kept in the bowl to keep the basil alive and fresh. Once a day, a
family member, usually the mother, dips the cross and basil into
some holy water and uses it to sprinkle water in each room of the
house. This ritual is believed to keep the 'Killantzaroi' (bad spirits)
away. There are a number of beliefs connected with these spirits,
which are supposed to be a species of goblins who appear only
during the 12-day period from Christmas to the Epiphany (January
6). These creatures are believed to come from the center of the earth
and to slip into people's house through the chimney. More
mischievous than actually evil, the Killantzaroi do things like
extinguish fires, ride astride people's backs, braid horses' tails, and
sour the milk. To further repel the undesirable sprites, the hearth is
kept burning day and night throughout the twelve days. Gifts are
finally exchanged on St. Basil's Day (January 1). On this day the
"renewal of waters" also takes place, a ritual in which all water jugs
in the house are emptied and refilled with new "St. Basil's Water."
The ceremony is often accompanied by offerings to the 'naiads',
spirits of springs and fountains. All in all, Christmas is an enjoyable
part of Greece today and one that should be experienced by all.
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Response 96 of 1049: Kilauea83 (MarciaH) * Sat, Jan 5, 2002 (14:50) * 53 lines
WHAT TO DO IF YOU LOSE YOUR WALLET OR PURSE
A corporate attorney sent this out to the employees in his company.
I pass it along, for your information.
WHAT TO DO IF YOU LOSE YOUR PURSE OR WALLET
We've all heard horror stories about fraud that's committed in your
name, address, SS#, credit, etc. Unfortunately I (the author of this piece
who happens to be an attorney) have firsthand knowledge, because my wallet
was stolen last month and within a week the thieve(s) ordered an expensive
monthly cell phone package, applied for a VISA credit card, had a credit
line approved to buy a Gateway computer, received a PIN number from DMV to
change my driving record information online, and more.
But here's some critical information to limit the damage in case this
happens to you or someone you know. As everyone always advises:
1. Cancel your credit cards immediately, but the key is having the toll
free number and your card numbers handy so you know whom to call. Keep those
where you can find them easily.
2. File a police report immediately in the jurisdiction where it was
stolen, this proves to credit providers you were diligent, and is a first step
toward an investigation (if there ever is one).
3. But here's what is perhaps most important: (I never ever thought to
do this)
Call the three national credit reporting organizations immediately to
place a fraud alert on your name and SS#. I had never heard of doing that until
advised by a bank that called to tell me an application for credit was
made over the Internet in my name. The alert means any company that checks
your credit knows your information was stolen and they have to contact you by
phone to authorize new credit. By the time I was advised to do this,
almost 2 weeks after the theft, all the damage had been done.
There are records of all the credit checks initiated by the thieves'
purchases, none of which I knew about before placing the alert.
Since then, no additional damage has been done, and the thieves threw my
wallet away this weekend (someone turned it in). It seems to have
stopped them in their tracks.
The numbers are:
-Equifax: 800-525-6285
-Experian (formerly TRW): 888-397-3742
-Trans Union: 800-680-7289
-Social Security Administration (fraud line): 800-269-0271
We pass along jokes; we pass along just about everything. Do think
about passing this information along. It could really help someone.
AND... why not print it up and keep it in a handy place -- not in your purse
or wallet, of course!
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Response 97 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jan 7, 2002 (15:49) * 30 lines
Stress Makes People Fat, Swedish Study Shows
Reuters
Jan 7 2002 9:15AM
STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Long-term stress could make people fat,
according to a study of some 50 overweight middle-aged Swedish men
published Monday.
Disruptions in the human nervous system, or stress, can concentrate fat
around the abdomen, raising the risk of diabetes as well as heart
problems, a study by the university hospital in the Swedish city of
Gothenburg found.
One fifth of Westerners are estimated to suffer from diabetes or
cardiovascular diseases.
"The stress system has developed to deal with periods of brief stress for
stone-age man preparing for battle or flight. But in today's civilized world,
stress is different. One does not beat up the boss or run away from the
mortgage institute," said physician Thomas Ljung, who led the study.
A body under stress creates a surplus of a hormone which stimulates a
fat-gathering enzyme. This enzyme is more easily taken up by the
abdomen than other parts of the body, the survey found.
After a long period of stress, the hormone surplus decreases but the fat
remains, particularly around the bellies of modern men who need less
physical exercise to survive than their forefathers.
"Positive stress, a quick rush of adrenaline, is only good for the body. It is
the long-term negative stress than can lead to serious health problems,"
Ljung told Reuters by telephone.
Even though pot-bellies are often associated with middle-aged men, a
surprisingly large number of women also have a disproportionate
amount of fat around their waists, he said.
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Response 98 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jan 7, 2002 (15:50) * 1 lines
Now, I am stressed about getting fat. It is another case of the tail chasing the dog!
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Response 99 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Mon, Jan 7, 2002 (19:37) * 1 lines
well that explains my troubles then (that and chocolate, what i eat when i'm stressed)
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Response 100 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jan 7, 2002 (20:34) * 3 lines
*sigh* We're doomed.
It is a Good Thing I have long legs and do not have fat genes.
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Response 101 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Mon, Jan 7, 2002 (23:04) * 3 lines
i'm as fat as i'm gonna get according to my genes (from what i've seen from 3 generations) so that's good. and to think i never broke 100 pounds until i was in the 10th grade!
ah well, german engineering, that's what i call it!
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Response 102 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Mon, Jan 7, 2002 (23:06) * 1 lines
did you just now do the snowflakes?
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Response 103 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jan 7, 2002 (23:32) * 1 lines
Yup just changed them to very small and changed the bars to black. The angel is the only part remaining until John is safely out of the storm. This is the dark of winter, even in Hawaii...
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Response 104 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jan 7, 2002 (23:34) * 1 lines
Oh, I did not weigh over 95 pounds until my son was in high school...
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Response 105 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Jan 8, 2002 (19:43) * 3 lines
*jaw dropping*
i just noticed the black bars (very sophisticated)....the snowflakes still look big to me though.....neat design in the middle, kinda artichoke looking (sp?)
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Response 106 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Jan 8, 2002 (20:27) * 3 lines
I agree about the snowflakes. I'll downsize them a bit more. I would return the hummingbird since I know John is safe and healing (but hate that he has broken his leg!) But, I'll wait.
I found these bars with the red ones I previously used and also a long dark green one just like these - but I have lost the location of the green ones. It does look good with this background, and all is so adaptable. I assume you are assembling your gifs for Mardi Gras? The first floats have made their appearance in New Orleans!
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Response 107 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Jan 8, 2002 (20:52) * 1 lines
i'll bet the green ones are nice too. yeah, mardis gras officially started today - 12th night ceremonies and all. i have the gifs for mardi gras just no where to put them (email terry about it though). i've got to get a catalog with beads and stuff to order!
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Response 108 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Jan 8, 2002 (21:12) * 3 lines
Ooouuuuuuu!!! You will out-dazzle the Hollywood glamourati! Looks like I 'd better check holidays and get searching for MardiGras gifs, too. I know there're out there.
Are the snowflakes still too big?
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Response 109 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Jan 8, 2002 (21:18) * 1 lines
no no, i think they're just right now!
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Response 110 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Jan 8, 2002 (21:22) * 1 lines
=) black snow - just like in West Virginia !
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Response 111 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Jan 8, 2002 (21:24) * 1 lines
*haha*
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Response 112 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan 9, 2002 (16:44) * 1 lines
Is the Greek Key divider bar better or worse? I like it! It looks embossed and quite classic. Now, to do something about that black snow...
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Response 113 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan 9, 2002 (17:31) * 1 lines
Fresh white snow is not as obvious, but a lot prettier!
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Response 114 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Jan 9, 2002 (19:49) * 1 lines
i like them both! and the greek keys evoke a feel for egyptian archaeology.
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Response 115 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan 9, 2002 (20:01) * 3 lines
How about Grecian antiquities? I think the Egyptians were too busy carving cartouches and painting 2-dimensional people in 3-D to make elaborate moldings, plinths, and such. Take a look at the pyramids, then look at the Parthenon in Athens, Greece. *SIGH*
I like them, too.
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Response 116 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Jan 9, 2002 (20:50) * 3 lines
true true, but they both have wonderful architecture for their times.
on second thought, unless it's my screen, the white snowflakes look like they're missing to me (not see through), just like a cut out or something.
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Response 117 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan 9, 2002 (22:35) * 1 lines
Hmmm... let me try to see them on internet explorer. I see them as vaguely white with sketchy edges. I need better graphics there. I'm working on it!
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Response 118 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan 9, 2002 (22:39) * 1 lines
yup, they look like they are rougfhly punched out on IE. I will find the thing I want and post it ASAP *smile*
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Response 119 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan 9, 2002 (23:00) * 1 lines
Oooh Sweetie, and Omega would be perfect for our alter-images. Let me know how it goes. I can always send you that next year... Sorry for the loss of word I caused you but I simply HAD to do it =)
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Response 120 of 1049: Cathy M (KitCat) * Wed, Jan 9, 2002 (23:09) * 1 lines
Help! I'm neew here. I'm looking for the DDL board... obviously, I'm lost :(
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Response 121 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan 9, 2002 (23:36) * 3 lines
DDL??? Darcy Drool Ladies? See http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/drool/all/new
I started there. Enjoy!!!
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Response 122 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan 9, 2002 (23:48) * 1 lines
Specifically, http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/drool/112/new is Darcy Drool. Happy reading. You will see me there a lot in the past!
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Response 123 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jan 9, 2002 (23:50) * 1 lines
No, these are not the right torches, either. Back to searching and restoring the snowflakes.
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Response 124 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, Jan 10, 2002 (19:34) * 1 lines
i thought they were aztec motifs!
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Response 125 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Jan 10, 2002 (19:51) * 1 lines
Oh Dear! No, alas, they are the Salt Lake City 2002 Official Olympic Winter Games Logo. I was going to put Athens 2004 laurel wreath up, but I could not find one good enough to copy. I had a torch there, but it was static and not very good. I'll keep looking...*sigh*
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Response 126 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Jan 10, 2002 (19:57) * 1 lines
I think they're supposed to be snowflakes... I'm going back to the white snowflakes for now.
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Response 127 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, Jan 10, 2002 (21:27) * 1 lines
i'm having no luck finding olympic motifs such as the rings for you to use. torches are easy enough-in fact, i think i have one in my files. will check for you!
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Response 128 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Jan 11, 2002 (00:50) * 3 lines
Thanks! I even tried borrowing one from an active website with not much success. I only managed to find a HUGS Olympic flag which was too large to use here. How hard can it be to make five interlocking circles? I'd like to use the Salt Lake City Logo if I could make it ANY other colors!!! I even tried white but the lines around it are not solid enough to look good. I will hunt further, also. *Hugs*, Wolfie!
We have to be interesting to entertain John while he mends. I'll try to find interesting things for him to contemplate.
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Response 129 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 5, 2002 (19:58) * 28 lines
It is Treaty of Waitangi day in New Zealand and a day of significance for their nation.
THE TREATY OF WAITANGI 1840
[English text of the Treaty]
Her Majesty Victoria Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
Ireland regarding with Her Royal Favour the Native Chiefs and Tribes of
New Zealand and anxious to protect their just Rights and Property and
to secure to them the enjoyment of Peace and Good Order has deemed
it necessary in consequence of the great number of Her Majesty's
Subjects who have already settled in New Zealand and the rapid
extension of Emigration both from Europe and Australia which is still in
progress to constitute and appoint a functionary properly authorized to
treat with the Aborigines of New Zealand for the recognition of Her
Majesty's Sovereign authority over the whole or any part of those
islands.
Her Majesty therefore being desirous to establish a settled form of Civil
Government with a view to avert the evil consequences which must
result from the absence of the necessary Laws and Institutions alike to
the native population and to Her subjects has been graciously pleased
to empower and to authorize "me William Hobson a Captain" in Her
Majesty's Royal Navy Consul and Lieutenant Governor of such parts of
New Zealand as may be or hereafter shall be ceded to Her Majesty to
invite the confederated and independent Chiefs of New Zealand to
concur in the following Articles and Conditions.
more... http://www.govt.nz/aboutnz/treaty.php3
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Response 130 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 5, 2002 (19:59) * 1 lines
OOps. not till February 6th. I'll try to find a flag to post tomorrow. Which flag is Politically Correct on this occasion? Rob, Help!
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Response 131 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Feb 5, 2002 (20:04) * 1 lines
but will we have ftp tomorrow?
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Response 132 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 5, 2002 (20:33) * 1 lines
No, probably not ftp, and I thought I had it on my old files at Spring. I have everyone but NZ. I'll borrow one from somewhere on the net =) I'll also save it until such time as I can ftp.
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Response 133 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 5, 2002 (20:34) * 1 lines
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Response 134 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 5, 2002 (20:35) * 1 lines
Hmmm Is it big enough?
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Response 135 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Feb 5, 2002 (22:15) * 3 lines
nah, a couple more inches and it'll cover the entire screen *laugh*
did you post it in rob's topic?
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Response 136 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 6, 2002 (15:57) * 2 lines
Not posted yet in Rob's topic. My reason is because there is a lot of politics and racial overtones to this day just as there are certain Hawaiian celebrations. Post the wrong flag as we are all in for accusations of being politically incorrect. This national flag of NZ has the flag of the Union ("Union Jack") of the UK on it. I suspect to the Maori, it is less than welcome.
Black with silver ferns? I am waiting to hear from Rob.
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Response 137 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 6, 2002 (20:14) * 26 lines
THE IDEA, ITS RELEVANCE FOR TODAY, THE SYMBOL
OLYMPIC TRUCE - THE IDEA
The tradition of the “Truce” or “Ekecheiria” was
established in ancient Greece in the 9th
century BC by the signature of a treaty
between three kings. During the Truce period,
the athletes, artists and their families, as well
as ordinary pilgrims, could travel in total
safety to participate in or attend the Olympic
Games and return afterwards to their
respective countries. As the opening of the Games approached, the sacred
truce was proclaimed and announced by citizens of Elis who travelled
throughout Greece to pass on the message.
http://www.olympic.org/uk/organisation/missions/truce/truce_uk.asp
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Response 138 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 6, 2002 (20:17) * 1 lines
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Response 139 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 6, 2002 (20:17) * 1 lines
aha - I need to make the background transparent. =)
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Response 140 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 6, 2002 (20:22) * 2 lines
Now I need to be able to ftp them to Spring. *sigh*
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Response 141 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Feb 6, 2002 (20:23) * 3 lines
the olympic rings are great!!
(i know nothing about the correct flag for NZ)
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Response 142 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 6, 2002 (23:08) * 1 lines
It is the one I posted, though they are discussing alternatives now that they are distinct from the old Empire. Check this super source for flags of many sorts New Zealand: http://www.fotw.stm.it/flags/nz-mao.html
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Response 143 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 6, 2002 (23:10) * 1 lines
I have the olympic rings ready to ftp to Spring. I can get there but it won't accept anything I try to send.
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Response 144 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, Feb 7, 2002 (13:51) * 1 lines
that's the probs i've been having with it....
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Response 145 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Feb 7, 2002 (19:15) * 1 lines
I can finally ftp to my sites but none of them show up on the net. Have they disappeared into Topic 65? *sigh*
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Response 146 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 8, 2002 (21:16) * 7 lines
The Olympic cauldron has been lit. The games are officially open. Geo has installed the logo and waits the rings created by John. I think it totally appripriate that he does this for us. After all, we are celebrating his heritage throughout the world. I just wish the Olympic truce existed for all time on the entire planet.
Higher * Faster * Stronger
Let the games begin
May the best person win
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Response 147 of 1049: Lucie (alyeska) * Fri, Feb 8, 2002 (22:21) * 1 lines
Amen to that.
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Response 148 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 8, 2002 (22:29) * 3 lines
I am just now seeing the opening ceremonies. They, like everything else in Hawaii, are tape delayed. I am sharing this with everyone with tears of lost innocence in my eyes. The world is not united even by sport. I would live forever in the embrace of the Olympic Ideals.
*Hugs* to you all !
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Response 149 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 11, 2002 (00:40) * 27 lines
Olympic Hymn
The Olympic Hymn, played when
the Olympic flag is raised, was
adopted by the International
Olympic Committee in 1957. The
music was composed by Spirou
Samara and the lyrics were written
by Costis Palamas (spelling of their
names varies in different sources). It
was first incorporated at the Rome
Olympics in 1960.
In addition to the official anthem,
each host city where the Olympics
are held can also create its own
anthem. "Bugler's Dream" by Leo
Arnaud was introduced during the
1968 Olympic Games in Grenoble.
Subsequently, John Williams
composed the "Olympic Fanfare
and Theme" for the 1984 Olympic
Games in Los Angeles.
http://www.santacruzpl.org/readyref/files/m-p/olympichymn.shtml
This is the most glorious music and the commentators talke all the way through it. I was NOT happy!
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Response 150 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 11, 2002 (00:42) * 1 lines
Now, if only someone recorded it and I can get hold of a copy. I will search for this, also!
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Response 151 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 11, 2002 (11:58) * 5 lines
If ever there was a reason for appreciating just what satellites can do---with the help of some high altitude aerial imagery, dedication, hard work, and a lot of expensive equipment---this is it!
Here is a must see!!!! http://olympics.gsfc.nasa.gov/
Click on the animation and zoom away!
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Response 152 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 11, 2002 (13:18) * 35 lines
OLYMPIC GAMES - Not an Ordinary Competition
The Olympic Games are about more than sports. The Games have
always been about peace. The first known Olympic Games occurred over
2,500 years ago, in Olympia, Greece. A Greek king called for a truce, or
pause from all fighting, so that the best athletes could compete against each
other in peace. The truce declared: "May the world be delivered from crime
and killing and freed from the clash of arms." The Games were held every
four years until the year 394 CE.
Over a thousand years later, Pierre de Coubertin suggested the world once
again hold Olympic Games. He thought the Games would promote world
peace and friendship. He designed the Olympic symbol of five interlocking
rings to show the union of the different parts of the world. The ring colors
are blue, yellow, black, green, and red. These colors were chosen because
every flag in the world has at least one of these colors.
Flags are an important part of the Olympic Games. When athletes win a
gold, silver, or bronze medal, their country's flag flies proudly during the
medal ceremony. In addition, the national anthem of the gold medal winner's
country is played for all to hear.
The Olympic Torch Lights the Way
Since ancient times, the Olympic Games were opened by the lighting of an
Olympic flame. For the past 60 years, the flame has been carried by torch
from Olympia, Greece (where it is lit by the sun's rays) to whatever city in
the world is hosting the Games. This year's torch traveled 13,500 miles. It
went by car, plane, train, boat, dogsled, and snowmobile. But mostly,
runners carried the torch. It passed through 46 of the 50 United States to
reach Salt Lake City. There it is burning in a specially-designed cauldron
until the closing ceremony on February 24. It is then put out with the promise
that it will burn again for the summer Olympic Games in Athens, Greece, in
2004.
http://www.eduplace.com/ss/current/story.html
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Response 153 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 11, 2002 (16:47) * 19 lines
Olympic Hymn
Adopted by the IOC in 1957
Cantata by Costis Palamas
Set to music by Spirou Samara in 1896
Immortal spirit of antiquity,
Father of the true, beautiful and good,
Descend, appear, shed over us thy light,
Upon this ground and under this sky
Which had first witnessed thy unperishable fame.
Give life and animation to those noble games!
Throw wreaths of fadeless flowers to the victors
In the race and in the strife!
Create in our breasts, hearts of steel!
http://www.athletics.org.nz/canterbury/olympics_hymn.html
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Response 154 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 11, 2002 (16:57) * 21 lines
OLYMPIC HYMN
Ancient immortal spirit, unsullied father of
that which is beautiful, great and true,
Descend, make thyself known and shine hero
on this earth and below these skies
witness of Thy Glory.
Illuminate the endevour of the noble contests
in the running race, the wrestling and the throwing.
Place a wreath of evergreen branch,
creating the body as of iron and worthy.
Vales, mountains and oceans shine with Thee
Like unto a great temple of white and porphyry.
To which all peoples hasten to this temple
to worship Thee, Oh ancient immortal Spirit.
sheet music for piano... http://www.forthnet.gr/olympics/athens1896/pictures/docs/hymn.html
I really want this - done right!
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Response 155 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 22, 2002 (14:17) * 12 lines
(John in topic 65):"Perhaps between the spectators of the Olympic Athletic Contests exist more capable athletes but the glory is for those they battle in stadium."
Ancient Greece said much about the human condition to help us know ourselves better. John's quote is pertinent considering how many single-participant "teams" were in attendance at the Olympics soon to conclude in Salt Lake City.
We have learned to sit in chairs and criticize those who dare to compete and to put their best efforts before all mankind. How much better they are for the experience. The journey was heroic. The results are not nearly as important. I hope someday we will realize this once again.
I've become a great fan of the art of chess on ice called Curling I was delighted when a team of Scotswomen representing Great Britain won the gold yesterday. They invented the sport.
I will be watching the 4-man bobsleigh and cheering for the team from Greece. They als participated in the 2-man races and, like we did in some sports, did ot win medals but they did very respectably. Cheers to them for participating.
I am sorrowful for the ending of the games so soon. I am also tired of the big-money high profile figure skating. It is no longer a sport. It has become a political and monitary game which is unworthy of the Olympics. When they eliminated the requried skill elements, they changed everything. I would be happy to be rid of them. I have also seen enough hockey with smashing and gouging to last a lifetime. They can get rid of that, soo. Million-dollar-salaried NHL players against small countries without as much money or aggression? I am offended just as I will be by the NBA players in Basketball in Athens in two years.
Greece really cannot afford the Olympics in 2004. I have absolutely no doubt that they belong in Athens. I also think the host country, in this case, should not be funding the entire enterprise. I think, in gratitude, the entire world's teams should contribute richy to the efforts and save Greece from a huge debt they cannot afford to incur.
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Response 156 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 22, 2002 (19:10) * 1 lines
Greece continues to participate and despite the monumental obstacles put in their team's way, the flag bearer at the opening ceremonies, Lefteris Fafalis, did well for himself and for Hellas in Cross Country, and in Combine Pursuit(skiing). Their bobsleigh team also had a good showing. Four-man tonight to watch. unhappily, though teh NBC anchor was presented with a hat, they did not see fit to show any of their runs. That saddens me.
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Response 157 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 22, 2002 (19:18) * 9 lines
It's only a bit more than 900 days until the Athens Summer Olympics in 2004. I will be absolutely glued to any transmissions available anwhere. I might even consider obtaining a satellite dish just for that eventuality.
Throughout the Olympic Games, three flags continually fly: the Olympic flag, the hosting country's flag and Greece's flag. How perfectly beautiful it is to see the American flag and the Greek flag either side of the Olympic flag in Salt Lake city. In Athens, will there be two Greek flags? Will the Greek team enter first or just their flag and, as the host country team, enter last?
I am still hunting for the Greek Olympic Team webpage. I can find the Nagano website and the 2004 website.
The Baltimore Orioles, along with Major League Baseball, have stepped forward in an effort to help the Greek government field a competitive baseball team for the 2004 Olympic Games to be held in Athens.
http://www.geocities.com/baseballgreece/olympic.html
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Response 158 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 22, 2002 (19:22) * 23 lines
Greek-American Olympic hopeful Michael Voudaris, an Emergency Medical Technician, helped save lives at Ground Zero. Now competing in the skeleton event, he had planned to memorialize 30 Greek nationals, as well as fellow EMTs and alumni from his high school, who died during the Sept. 11th attacks. (He was not allowed to do this. IOC forbade it.)
SAE, the organization for Greeks abroad, has
announced that the official Volunteers Application
form for the Olympic and Paralympic Games
ATHENS 2004 is now available electronically at
the Organising Committee's website
www.athens.olympic.org in Greek and English,
under Volunteers.
Volunteers should carefully read the guidelines,
before completing the Volunteers Application.
Applications must be completed only in the
language of the application (only Greek or only
English).
The electronic form of the Application must be
received electronically. Photocopies or faxes of the
application are not acceptable. If you submit the
Application electronically you do not need to
submit it in print form.
http://www.helleniccomserve.com/headlinenews.html
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Response 159 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 22, 2002 (19:23) * 4 lines
Official website of the 2004 Athens Olympics
http://www.athens.olympic.org/Page/default.asp?la=2
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Response 160 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 22, 2002 (19:25) * 1 lines
I always thought they used a laurel wreath. I was corrected by John who told me it was Olive. As you can see by their logo, there are little spheres between the leaves - ergo Olive it is!
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Response 161 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 22, 2002 (19:28) * 1 lines
This is my favorite summer Olympic event because I've participated in racing 470's. http://www.athens.olympic.org/Page/default.asp?la=2
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Response 162 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 22, 2002 (19:30) * 1 lines
http://www.ahepa20.org/events/greek_bobsleigh_team.htm
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Response 163 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 22, 2002 (19:33) * 0 lines
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Response 164 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 22, 2002 (19:39) * 2 lines
If I had only known, I could have been part of their Olympic Bobsleigh team's sled. *sigh* I will look for further opportunities to do this. It is amazing. I recall their showing the sled with the beautiful blue on which were laminated all of the supporting photographs.
http://www.olympicdream.net/Events_schedule.htm
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Response 165 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Feb 22, 2002 (21:45) * 41 lines
WHO DESIGNED THE WORLD'S LARGEST UNFOLDING STRUCTURE, THE ARCHED CURTAIN FOR THE OLYMPIC MEDALS PLAZA?
Chuck Hoberman, world renowned inventor and toy designer,
and trained as both a sculptor and engineer, was commis-
sioned to design the Hoberman Arch, a semi-circular, web-
like structure of aluminum backed with translucent panels
that can be illuminated. It geometrically retracts in shape
and size, its 96 panels, each with three-pinned joints,
spiralling outward and upward in a radial motion to form a
6-foot-thick semi-circular ring. Hoberman is said to be
fascinated with nature's moving parts, like the iris of the
eye, and sees how small elements work to develop a bigger whole.
WHAT ARE SOME TECHNICAL DETAILS ABOUT THE HOBERMAN ARCH?
The Hoberman Arch spans 72 feet in diameter and stands 36
feet tall. There are more than 4,000 individually machined
pieces in the Arch. It is held together by 13,000 rivets,
and is powered by two 30-horsepower motors controlling
eight separate cables. The moveable elements weight 15,000
pounds.
HOW SMALL IS THE WORLD'S SMALLEST GUITAR?
The world's smallest guitar is 10 micrometers long--about the
size of a single cell--with six strings each about 50 nano-
meters, or 100 atoms, wide. It was made by Cornell University
researchers from crystalline silicon, and demonstrates a new
technology for a new generation of electromechanical devices.
WHY DID THE FIRST FEMALE AMERICAN TO WIN AN OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL NOT REALIZE SHE HAD WON?
The 1900 Olympics in Paris were so poorly organized that many
contestants did not realize they were participating in Olympic
games. Part of the problem was because other sporting events
were held in connection with the Olympics, and the 1900 games
extended over a period of six months, unlike other Olympics
where the games occurred over a shorter period. This caused
much confusion. American art student Margaret Abbott entered
a nine-hole "International Ladies' Golf Tournament" on a lark
and won, though nothing she saw identified the tournament as
an Olympic event. It wasn't until two decades after she died
that historians identified her as the first female American
"gold" medalist.
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Response 166 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Feb 24, 2002 (14:52) * 10 lines
Olympic Hopeful? From my Alma Mater:
MINNEAPOLIS -- Penn State pole vaulter Kevin Dare died Saturday after landing on his head during the Big Ten indoor championships.
Dare was a sophomore from State College, Pa., with several years' experience in the often-dangerous sport. Another vaulter was killed in a similar accident in the 1993 Sioux City, Iowa, relays.
"It's always in the back of your mind that you can get hurt pole vaulting," said Michigan State's Paul Terek, the No. 6 vaulter in the nation. "But you bury it deep in the back of your mind, even though 100 out of 100 pole vaulters have had some kind of accident in their careers. You just bury it, but it's been unearthed now, though."
more... http://www.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/2002/0223/1339701.html
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Response 167 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Feb 24, 2002 (22:03) * 6 lines
SALT LAKE CITY WINTER OLYMPICS-VERY INTENSE GREEK PRESENCE.
(Cultural, Scientific & General News Category)
February 2002: The 2002 Winter Olympics started on February 8th in Salt Lake City, USA. During his stay in Utah's capital the Greek Minister for the Culture inaugurated the Greek stand which is situated in Salt Lake City downtown and in which is displayed audiovisual material presenting the 2004 Athens Summer Games preparation and inform the audience about the targets of the Cultural Olympics. The Minister had also proceeded in the unveiling of a Prometheus statue during a symbolic ceremony organized by Greek-Americans. The Minister for the Culture together with the Greek Minister of Foreign Affairs attended a Greek oriented exhibit where they were presented the works of the Greek painter Mina Valyrakis who was voted as the 'Sport Artist of the Year' by the American Sports Federation and of the Greek-American Euripides Kastaris, an artist connecting the Olympic ideal with the 2002 and 2004 Games. On the other hand, the Greek Minister for the Culture had an appointment with t!
he president of the Peking 2008 Organizing Committee and discussed the future cooperation between Greece and China concerning the cultural dimension of the Olympics. The Chinese part was very interested about the philosophy of the 2001-2004 Cultural Olympics. In this direction, the president of the Peking 2008 Organizing Committee indicated Greece's knowledge and experience on Cultural Olympics and expressed the willingness of China to be helped by Greece in the organization of cultural exhibits. During the meeting was decided the sign of a protocol of cooperation concerning the Cultural Olympics.
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Response 168 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 25, 2002 (12:39) * 2 lines
The Athens Summer Olympics coverage is now at the Sports Conference Topic 58
http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/sports/58/new
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Response 169 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Mon, Feb 25, 2002 (19:34) * 8 lines
Marcia, I agree with many of your observations about the recently concluded Salt Lake City Winter Olympic Games. Concerning figure skating, you are absolutely right, it is no longer a sport. In fact, by removing the required skill elements; i.e., school figures, it is no longer even figure skating. Perhaps they should change the name now that true figure skating no longer exists. What they, especially the women, do now are some cheesy Las Vegas review numbers in gauche and gaudy costumes. As for the judging the rules are positively arcane. No one understands them. They have some bizarre thing involving ordinals. An example would be if Kwan had only lost the free skate to Hughes she would have still taken the gold medal, despite her fall in her free skate. However, since she placed after Slutskaya as well as Hughes, she, instead, took the bronze medal. I don't understand that, at all. Using ladies figure skaking as an illustration again. The last year that school figures were in the Winter Games was at Calga
y in 1988. The winner of the ladies figure skating gold medal in that Olympic Games was Katerina Witt. What is interesting is that Witt only placed first in compulsory (school) figures. She finished second in both the short free-style program and the long free-style program. She was the gold medalist because she had the highest number of points at the end of the competion. It was a fairer system, more in keeping with athletics. Like you, I would be happy to be rid of them.
While I'm venting on figure skating, let me expound on those annoying Canadian whiners who were, and in my mind, still are the silver medalists. They skated a technically easier and less "artistic" program than the Russians. This was also compounded by the fact that they had nowhere near the Russians' unison. Still, since the Russian pair had one of it's members land with slight mis-step, they Canadians were whining like babies that they skated a "perfect" program. Well, they had no mistakes in their boring, safe, and not particularly difficult program. They set they example of aim at the middle, be safe, and if you don't get what you want whine until you do. They disgust me.
Lastly, the American network NBC's coverage was god-awful. It was so chauvinistic as to make me embarassed. They were only interested in competions in which Americans had a chance at medaling. They gave very little note to athletes who were not, at least, North American. It was shameless boosterism coupled with amaturish commentary. NBC needs to understand that the Olympics are an international sporting festival. Much of the joy of them is derived from seeing and learning about the great international stars. I'll stop grumbling now.
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Response 170 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Feb 25, 2002 (20:54) * 8 lines
Yes Yes Yes, Cheryl. No school figures, no examining edges has turned it into entertainment but not a sport. Get rid of it.
People who winge made me very biased against them. If I did not care about the medals to start with, they surely got my bias against them by their attitude (hers, mostly.) I agree totally that the Russian team won the gold medals hands down with skill level and technical difficulty. It is very sad.
NBC was so appalling at the Sydney Olympics I listened to short wave and avoided the televised programming totally. I even wrote to Australia Broadcasting to thank them for their excellent coverage - and they read my letter on the air!
This time AGAIN, NBC talked OVER the Olympic Anthem! That did it for me. It was down hill all the rest of the way. Worst of all, they will be the only way I will have to see Athens. *sigh* Perhaps rental of a satellite dish might be worthwhile for that !
*joining you on your soapbox*
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Response 171 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Tue, Feb 26, 2002 (01:31) * 7 lines
Hi,
Olympic games are really an international sporting festival in our days, but not only. An entire economic circuit functions simultaneously with aim the profit. They does not exist chaste ideals for distribution now.
Ancient Olympic games were also an international sporting festival. But they existed ideals and messages for athletes and for Spectators (like ÅÕ ÁÃÙÍÉÆÅÓÈÅ = VERACIOUSLY CONTEST). The more important fact was that the wars they stopped at the duration of the Olympic games. They participated also there, athletes from belligerent countries and were absolutely respectable. The ancient Olympic games were a message of peace and modesty.
John
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Response 172 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Feb 26, 2002 (14:59) * 1 lines
i work with someone who plans to petition NBC to never do the Olympics coverage again! but they had to do something to make lots of money or else they couldn't pay the $1M/show salary for each of the members of Friends!!
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Response 173 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Feb 26, 2002 (15:00) * 1 lines
i agree with the whining. although a guy i work with was there with his wife. they both thought there was something screwy about the judging and that the canadians did a better program. i don't know because i didn't see it.
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Response 174 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 26, 2002 (15:03) * 3 lines
*Sigh* That is why I posted the Olympic Truce twice here. I though it important enough to remind people exactly what the Olympics represented. It is enough that you have made the team and can participate in the events. All who attend are already winners. I am an idealist enough to wish they would return to this ideal. Like the man from Camaroon - the sole competitor from his country. He came in last in his event, but he was every bit as delighted to have participated as the gold medal winner. THAT was what it is all about.
Participation, blending all cultures and ethnicities into one human population striving to do their best, rejoicing in the pacticipation rather than the outcome. Doing one's best for the glory of sport and fellowship. When money enters the equation it spoils everything. This year each medal came with a monitary award. I am far too idealistic for this world as it is now. Still, I cling to the Olympic ideal and pray each time that the goodness in mankind will rise to the challenge.
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Response 175 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 26, 2002 (15:07) * 1 lines
There is definitley something terribly wrong with the subjective judging. Publicity and pressure from both inside the IOC and from the public at large made them rethink their methods and to make changes. NBC is horrid. ABC with Jim McKay was always respectful and unintrusive. How sad they have the games until 2008. I think it is a fact of life that they paid billions do get them and they will not be moved by any outcries or protests.
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Response 176 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 26, 2002 (15:20) * 1 lines
With our current weather, perhaps Hilo should place a bid for a future Winter Olympics. We have more snow that Lake Placid or Toronto!
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Response 177 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Tue, Feb 26, 2002 (19:20) * 2 lines
Wolfie, your point is well taken concerning your co-worker. Therein also lies much of the problem concerning the current sorry state of figure skating at the Olympics. Without school figures it very often comes down to a matter of personal taste at best, political one-upsmanship at worst. I think that seeing the two respective performances on television allowed me to be more objective than actually being there and being influenced by the crowd. My family used to produce rabid figure skating fans. They could really delve into the fine points of the sport. Unfortunately, nobody could really skate worth beans in my family, but I digress. The Canadians may have been more crowd pleasing; but it was largely a North American crowd. Thus, more likely to be disposed toward them. Their program was more "show biz" than that of the Russians. That does not make it a better program in terms of competition. The Russian pair skated a program of high technical difficulty in contrast to the Candadian pair's level of mediocre
difficulty. The Russians skated with more speed and unison, as well. In terms of what makes a great team of pairs skaters in the sport of figure skating the Russians were the far better example. It is a shame that the Russian pair had to have their victory and ability cast into doubt by a shoddy judging system. Marcia is right the whole thing is a mess and they should drop figure skating from the Olympics as it can no longer be taken seriously as a sport. As for my family who used to adore figure skating. Essentially most of us couldn't possibly care less about the joke it's become.
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Response 178 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Tue, Feb 26, 2002 (19:25) * 7 lines
John, you made wonderfully astute and valid points about the Olympic Games both past and present. Perhaps someday they will attain their full potential.
Marcia, I grew up watching the Olympics on ABC with Jim McKay. I loved them and miss the respect and, yes, warmth that they brought to their coverage.
Oh and congratulations Marcia on having your letter to Australian broadcasters of the Sydney Games read on the air.
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Response 179 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 26, 2002 (19:27) * 1 lines
PRAISE BE! I am not banned from Drool. Spring's happy family continues to be just that. I am still having problems with FTP despite terry's phone call. All's cool on the homefront, Terry!
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Response 180 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 26, 2002 (19:31) * 3 lines
Terry. FTP WORKS!!!
Many thanks!!!
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Response 181 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Feb 26, 2002 (19:53) * 7 lines
i love figure skating because of the difficulty of their maneuvers as well as integrating the "show biz" portion into it. i thought a well-performed routine combined them both. because it came on so late on the West Coast, i missed the whole program.
i agree that if you set a rule, those rules should be followed to a 'T' and subjectivity should be kept to a minimum.
i'm so glad you have ftp again marcia! (i haven't emailed the details yet)
cheryl, thanks for voicing your opinions--i am in agreement and believe the games should be Good Will and not some kind of contest as they were originally developed!
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Response 182 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 26, 2002 (22:22) * 3 lines
Wolfie, thanks for bringing up the Good Will games (possibly unconsciously) because of the way they have developed (I promise not to mention Ms Fonda-Turner is you do, also.) I consider them preparation for the Athens Olympics. Ok Now I will post the logos from my space on the hard drive.
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Response 183 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 26, 2002 (22:23) * 1 lines
well, I managed to remove the background. Now I need to remove the left upright margin of the original. FTP is a GOOD thing!
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Response 184 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 26, 2002 (22:24) * 4 lines
so is having the rings without background
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Response 185 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Feb 26, 2002 (22:25) * 1 lines
*Test*
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Response 186 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Wed, Feb 27, 2002 (07:56) * 10 lines
Can I speak with this image?
Also, put on the sound of your computer and
Special construction for all of you in Spring. It is dedicated to all Geo visitors too.
John
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Response 187 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 27, 2002 (13:07) * 9 lines
John, Your little floor element of gymnastics gifs are wonderful. Here we call that mounting the floow and first (element) run - usually a set of flips and summersaults from one corner to the opposite diagonal corner.
Your dove is lovely, and belongs at all venues to remind the participants and their judges of what it is really all about.
A music button that pushed itself?? How wonderful of it to play Zorba for us.
*Hugs* for making our days so much better for your having been here. Onward to creating our best not as a competition, but as an offering to our readers.
Kudos, John.
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Response 188 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Feb 27, 2002 (18:14) * 3 lines
i don't want to talk about Ms F-T so i promise not to as well!
and john, your graphics spoke volumes (as well as zorba).
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Response 189 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 27, 2002 (18:34) * 42 lines
Does this little excursion in the painful humor of teaching in the US appertain to the rest of the world?
A History of Teaching Math
Teaching Math in 1950:
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100.
His cost of production is 4/5 of the price.
What is his profit?
Teaching Math in 1960:
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100.
His cost of production is 4/5 of the price, or $80.
What is his profit?
Teaching Math in 1970:
A logger exchanges a set "L" of lumber for a set "M" of money.
The cardinality of set "M" is 100. Each element is worth one
dollar. Make 100 dots representing the elements of the set "M."
The set "C", the cost of production contains 20 fewer points than
set "M." Represent the set "C" as a subset of set "M" and answer the
following question:
What is the cardinality of the set "P" of profits?
Teaching Math in 1980:
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100.
His cost of production is $80 and his profit is $20.
Your assignment: Underline the number 20.
Teaching Math in 1990:
By cutting down beautiful forest trees, the logger makes $20.
What do you think of this way of making a living?
Topic for class participation after answering the question:
How did the forest birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down
the trees?
There are no wrong answers.
Teaching Match in 2000:
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100.
His cost of production is $120.
How does Arthur Andersen determine that his profit margin is $60?
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Response 190 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb 27, 2002 (18:35) * 1 lines
I want to see John doing his handsprings. I know how happy being able to FTP again made him. Me too!
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Response 191 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Thu, Feb 28, 2002 (17:01) * 1 lines
John, thank you so much for the beautiful Olympic graphic complete with music.
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Response 192 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Feb 28, 2002 (17:40) * 1 lines
I am so excited to see Greek gymnastics with a great coach worthy of their heritage. Perhaps NBC will finally televise a Greek athlete or two *sigh*
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Response 193 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Sun, Mar 3, 2002 (05:42) * 4 lines
Hi Wolfie, Cheryl, and Marcia,
I try to give you something different than simple words here. We can use different ways to express what we have to say. We can find beauty everywhere. We need a simple eyebeam and desire only.
John
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Response 194 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Mar 3, 2002 (14:45) * 1 lines
*Hugs* John. My delight is in sharing all things with you. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as we say. YOU are beautiful and Geo is honored to have your wisdom and perspective. *strewing rosepetals in your path*
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Response 195 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar 5, 2002 (23:16) * 8 lines
From a Geonian who wants to remain anonymous, this truism"
THE TRUTH IN 13 WORDS...
Inside every
older person
is a younger person -
wondering what the heck happened....
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Response 196 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Sat, Mar 9, 2002 (15:15) * 4 lines
I would say, "We are a live library, which is travelling in the time. Our memories are a special window via of which we can see back in time and space. The most of the times it is not agreeable because we easily remember bad situations rather than agreeable moments"
John
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Response 197 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 9, 2002 (15:25) * 3 lines
You are brilliant in your philosophy and observation of human nature, John. I am as guilty of this as is anyone, especially in the unfortunate manner is which I find my life. That is why I find more agreeable minds here than in my real life. We make choices and they are not always the best ones in retrospect.
I choose to look to what is possible from now on to make my life better, to excite my curiousity, and to give me things to make me happy to wake up in the morning. Thank you for being part of that joy and anticipation.
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Response 198 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 9, 2002 (18:55) * 43 lines
Since the Orthodox Church uses a different calendar from the one we use in the West, they are just now having their pre-Lenten festivities:
Carnival Time in Greece
Guide picks
Patras, Xanthi, and other cities in Greece go all out
for the pre-Lent festival known elsewhere as Mardi
Gras. Join in the fun!
Carnival in Corfu
Ancient and unique customs survive in the Corfiot
carnival.
Patras - General Info
A look at this lovely city, plus a bit on the Carnival.
Ragoutsaria
This early celebration (January 6-8th) has many
elements of Carnival, but also unique traditions
dating back to the ancient Dionysian festivals of
winter.
Xanthi - Burning of the Tzaros
Closing ceremony for the Carnival.
Xanthi Carnival - 1999 Program
Listing of cultural events held in conjuntion with carnival season. Check
back for 2000 info.
Xanthi Carnival - History
Founded in 1966, the Carnival was a success from the start. Quick look, a
few vintage photos.
Xanthi Carnival - Mayor's Message
Closing speech of the carnival, plus some photos.
Xanthi Carnival
Greek-only info on this untouristy Carnival.
all links are hot at the website below
http://gogreece.about.com/cs/carnivaltime/
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Response 199 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 9, 2002 (19:06) * 13 lines
For John, who cannot attend this year, a big hug of sympathy and many more years of Carnival in Patras for you!
http://gogreece.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.proskopos.com%2Fpatra_en.html
(I think it is like New Orleans is for Mardi Gras for the US.)
Finally, the Carnival of Patras is an internationally famous event as well as a milestone in the
city's life. It is carried out every year at the end of February or beginning of March (movable
feast). Tenths of thousands of Patras' people -and not only- join each year the carnival groups
(consisting of 150-300 persons) and with their own costumes participate in the various contests
of the Treasure Hunt as well as in the parades. Groups and all kinds of Organizations and
Associations organize their traditional "Costume Dances" in various night clubs and private
halls. Highlights include the Night "On-Foot" Parade on the last Saturday and the Grand Parade
on Carnival's last Sunday, when the whole city surrenders to a frantic continuous dance.
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Response 200 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 9, 2002 (19:07) * 5 lines
The Municipality of Patras, official sponsor of Patras' Carnival, keeps a discrete eye on the
events and, along with the Carnival Committee, looks after the participants' safety at the same
time it grades the quality of appearance of the groups. The Municipality as well takes part in the
celebrations as it organizes the famous "Mbourmboulia", adult dances, at the Municipal Theater
"Apollon".
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Response 201 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 9, 2002 (19:16) * 1 lines
Back to hunting for Birhday decorations. John's celebration is on Shrove Tuesday this year - according to the Orthodox Calendar. =)
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Response 202 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Sun, Mar 10, 2002 (02:51) * 7 lines
I have a correction. We have the Shrove Monday just after last carnival Sunday. So this Tuesday is not Shrove Tuesday. It is the next.
(Shrove Tuesday it means clean Tuesday or fasting Tuesday for us in Greece)
The fact that you remember my birthday is the best decoration. But, is someone, which can be glad because he becomes older? It is better to celebrate the fact that we are alive until this day and between good friends too.
John
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Response 203 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Mar 10, 2002 (16:27) * 3 lines
That is what it supposedly is in the western church but it is the day we eat everything we cannot eat for the next 40 days of Lent.
We celebrate the fact that you were conceived and born into the world so we might come to know and to love you, john! Aging is not something I think about. Rather, I consider a birthday the celebration of your life during which I also give flowers dedicated to your mother. Rejoice and join us in celebrating John who is amongst us and has enriched our lives with his presence. I am busy gathering flowers for you and in your mother's memory.
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Response 204 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Mar 10, 2002 (20:48) * 6 lines
For those who can get the Arts and Entertainment channel on TV, look for the hour each day when they broadcast the Paralympics from Salt Lake City. Congratulations to New Zeland for winning the women's downhill (skiing) and to the US who won their Sledge hockey game against Canada. Too day they are not more publicised or better covered. This is even more wonderful than the others were. Each person paricipating has some horrific tale of survival to tell, and their overcoming the obstacles life has given them is truly inspiring. Give it a look! http://www.paralympics2002.com/
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Response 205 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar 11, 2002 (14:33) * 9 lines
HAUOLI NA HANAU, KEONI
Mauna Loa Lei
Handcrafted from 250 Vanda Orchid
centers
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Response 206 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Mon, Mar 11, 2002 (18:08) * 1 lines
that is very pretty!!!
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Response 207 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar 11, 2002 (19:46) * 5 lines
In Hawaii, even the men wear flowers - even in their hair or behind their ears. No one dares call Polynesian men sissies. They are strong and built solidly and massively. Flowers actually look very good on men.
More to come... =)
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Response 208 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar 11, 2002 (20:08) * 4 lines
FOR JOHN FROM GEO
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Response 209 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Mon, Mar 11, 2002 (21:55) * 3 lines
it's tomorrow greece time isn't it?
marcia, i've seen two samoan men here in my tiny adventures, and they were giants--it was like david looking at goliath.
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Response 210 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar 11, 2002 (23:10) * 3 lines
Samoans fear nothing on earth except for other Samoans! You're right. They are giants. We have a large percentage of Samoans at UHH and when their students graduate, they all come and sing and dance for the entire audience. It is spine-tingling in the nicest meaning of the word. They also do it for student athletes after they play their last collegiate game. That is totally magical. Everyone is totally transfixed.
IT IS THE 12TH OF MARCH IN GREECE.
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Response 211 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Mar 12, 2002 (10:49) * 1 lines
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOHN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Response 212 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Mar 12, 2002 (10:49) * 3 lines
that was really supposed to be a whole lot bigger.....like this:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOHN!!!!!!!!!!
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Response 213 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar 12, 2002 (14:13) * 7 lines
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Response 214 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar 12, 2002 (15:54) * 4 lines
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JOHN, from Wolfie
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Response 215 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Mar 12, 2002 (18:51) * 2 lines
thanks marcia for posting it for me!!!!
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Response 216 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Mar 12, 2002 (18:51) * 1 lines
oh no, now the bold is taking over
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Response 217 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar 12, 2002 (19:29) * 1 lines
eeek!!
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Response 218 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar 12, 2002 (19:30) * 1 lines
*whew* I must have missed a closing tag when I did yours - John will be amused!
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Response 219 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Tue, Mar 12, 2002 (23:55) * 8 lines
This is Great honour for a simple sensitive man. This is the first time where one day it had 36 hours!!!! My international birthday! It started normally in Greece and ends in Hawaii 12 hours after my midnight.
Thank you Marcia
Thank you Wolfie
THANK YOU GEO Deeply of my heart.
John
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Response 220 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Mar 13, 2002 (00:20) * 2 lines
Wow! I never thought about 36 hour birthdays! You are right.... how wonderful.
Now, if only you had managed to come around the world backward you could have repeated the entire 36 hour day as you crossed the international dateline.
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Response 221 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Mar 13, 2002 (17:56) * 1 lines
wow, 36 hours of celebrating!! how lucky you are!!!!!!!
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Response 222 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Mar 14, 2002 (15:45) * 1 lines
...and how luck we are for being able to be the celebrants!
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Response 223 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Thu, Mar 14, 2002 (19:23) * 1 lines
John, I missed your birthday and posted your birthday wishes at the wrong conference. So, I'll try again. Sorry for being late. Happy Birthday, John!
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Response 224 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Mar 14, 2002 (20:20) * 1 lines
John figured it was already a 36 hour celebration - so I extended the event for the rest of the month. Watch him turn Irish on Monday!
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Response 225 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Fri, Mar 15, 2002 (18:00) * 1 lines
*laugh*
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Response 226 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Sat, Mar 16, 2002 (17:57) * 4 lines
It’s all right Cheryl. Thank for your wishes. Thanks to Geo and the two opposite sides of Earth, a celebration day can hold out 36 hours. It is normal if you have good friends at the both sides. I feel great honor that I am member in Geo between very god friends from USA, New Zealand and around the world. Especially, I must thanks Marcia that is the great in waiting hostess, Wolfie, Rob and all Geo members. It is great honor for me.
John
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Response 227 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Sat, Mar 16, 2002 (18:01) * 13 lines
I have some news about our earthquake prediction research.
In the ALPHA TV (Greek channel) exists a 3-hours airing every Thursday night. This airing presents everything that is or sounds strange in Greek political and social life. Its name is JUNGLE.
The airing of last Thursday was dedicated to our earthquake prediction research. Dr. Thanassoulas described thoroughly our method. At the discussion that followed were heard only positive scientific opinions and no one negative. Seismologists, they had nothing to say. My participation was by telephone. We gave the lie to rumors for an oncoming big EQ at the Northwest Greece during this airing. Tele-view of this airing was very much high.
Afterwards this airing, I had two TV reporters of different TV channels in my house on Friday morning. I gave also three live talk shows for radio stations. Also, I was sitting in an airing of one hour talk show in ASTRA TV and in the Evening News of TRT TV that are channels of central Greece.
Finally, I have to say two things.
One: It is much difficult if you become the day person suddenly.
Two: I hope that Greek government or someone else can help us to install and operate at least two additional stations in Greece.
John
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Response 228 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Sun, Mar 17, 2002 (12:01) * 1 lines
*woohoo* they're standing up and taking notice, john!!
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Response 229 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Mar 17, 2002 (13:23) * 1 lines
John is famous in Greece! He did not tell you his website had many hits after the program. It is better than the Neilson Ratings we have! He will soon outgrow Geo's humble surroundings, I fear. My Congratulations for this long overdue publicity and all honors. No one has said anything negative !!!
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Response 230 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Mar 17, 2002 (13:51) * 4 lines
Happy St Patrick's Day
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Response 231 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Sun, Mar 17, 2002 (20:22) * 1 lines
erin go braugh!
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Response 232 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Mar 17, 2002 (22:19) * 5 lines
Forecver - yes, if they stop finding ways and reasons for killing each other. I think they are gonna make it, after all!
Dhia duit!
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Response 233 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Mar 17, 2002 (22:22) * 8 lines
May there always be work for your hands to do;
May your purse always hold a coin or two;
May the sun always shine on your windowpane;
May a rainbow be certain to follow each rain;
May the hand of a friend always be near you;
May God fill your heart with gladness to cheer you.
Thanks, Meredith! *HUGS*
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Response 234 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Mar 17, 2002 (22:25) * 13 lines
Visitors flood Patras for annual carnival
16/03/2002 20:14:21
Thousands of visitors poured into Patras in summer-like weather on
Saturday for the start of the western port city's annual carnival, the
largest in Greece.
The carnival peaks on Sunday with a major parade through the city
centre, this year featuring Poseidon, the sea god of ancient Greek
mythology.
Hoteliers reported that hotels were filled to capacity.
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Response 235 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Mar 17, 2002 (22:32) * 4 lines
I understand that the childish depravity of New Orleans Mardi Gras and the Rio Carbivale has not yet gotten to Greece. Too much of the wrong stuff to drink, I would suppose, but not the naked debauchery for which I am at a loss to explain.
Where ARE their parents?!
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Response 236 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar 18, 2002 (19:20) * 4 lines
For John who is the only one on Geo who can actually pronounce this wishes:
'Kala Koulouma':Clean Monday and 'Kali Sarakosti', the fourty day period
before Greek Orthodox Easter
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Response 237 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar 19, 2002 (00:54) * 3 lines
It is still Monday in Hawaii so I can post this but cannot see well enough in the dark to participate in the festivites.
Clean Monday or Katheri Deftera 40 days before Easter, marks the first day of lent and it is customary to go out in the country and fly paper kites.
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Response 238 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar 19, 2002 (01:01) * 40 lines
Greeks celebrate end of carnival, start of Lent
18/03/2002 18:18:02
Thousands of Athenians on Monday climbed Philopappou Hill near the
Acropolis to celebrate the start of Lent with traditional delicacies
and music.
Leading the annual municipally-arranged event was Mayor Dimitris
Avramopoulos.
Children around Greece flew kites, another tradition that marks the end
of the annual carnival season and the beginning of Lent, leading to
Greek Orthodox Easter, which falls early in May this year.
In the capital for celebrations were the leader of the Coalition of the
Left and Progress, Nikos Constantopoulos; and the head of the Communist
Party of Greece, Aleka Papariga.
President of the Republic Costis Stephanopoulos spent the holiday in
Rio, Achaia; Prime Minister Costas Simitis in Aghii Theodori, Attica;
and the leader of the main opposition New Democracy party, Kostas
Karamanlis, on the island of Evia.
On Saturday, thousands of visitors had poured into Patras in
summer-like weather for the start of the western port city's annual
carnival, the largest in Greece.
The carnival peaked on Sunday with a five kilometre long parade through
the city centre, this year featuring Poseidon, the sea god of ancient
Greek mythology, as the carnival's traditional King of Laughter, whose
effigy is burnt at the end of the event. The theme of the parade was
the Mediterranean.
The carnival also includes a treasure hunt, enjoyed this year by about
35,000 children wearing masks and costumes.
Hoteliers reported that hotels in Patras were filled to capacity.
http://www.hri.org/news/greek/apeen/2002/02-03-18.apeen.html
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Response 239 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Wed, Mar 20, 2002 (10:33) * 0 lines
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Response 240 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Fri, Mar 22, 2002 (13:46) * 8 lines
This is for Marcia
This is for Rob
John
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Response 241 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 22, 2002 (14:10) * 4 lines
Thank you, John. This one is for you. (We have missed you!) I wonder if we might be able to put smaller icons like these on the Front Page of Geo...
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Response 242 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 22, 2002 (14:13) * 4 lines
For John and for the metrically challenged, I think seeing your weather in bothe metric and "American" might be more meaningful:
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Response 243 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Fri, Mar 22, 2002 (15:31) * 3 lines
With the mention of the vernal equinox this week, it seems we have been very Northern Hemisphere-centric. We forgot about Rob in New Zealand, where it was the autumnal equinox.
Happy Belated Autumnal Equinox, Rob!
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Response 244 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 22, 2002 (17:14) * 1 lines
You're right! He says Autumn becan two weeks ago for them - the first winter storm. That is how I known when seasons change in Hawaii. The onset of summer is more difficult to discern!
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Response 245 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 22, 2002 (17:42) * 12 lines
HOW IS THE DATE FOR EASTER DETERMINED EACH YEAR?
There are two different formulas for Easter, since there are
two Easters, in most years. The basic formula is: the first
Sunday after the first full moon after the vernal equinox
(March 20, the first day of spring). This year, the holiday
falls on March 31. (It can occur any time between March 22
and April 25.) But there is another formula. In the Eastern
Orthodox religion, the formula is: the first Sunday after
the first full moon after the vernal equinox after Jewish
Passover. That is why the two Easters rarely coincide.
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Response 246 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Fri, Mar 22, 2002 (18:09) * 1 lines
hey, where's mine? *laugh* (where can i get one?--dunno if i can ftp yet either)
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Response 247 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Fri, Mar 22, 2002 (18:10) * 1 lines
(and i'm glad i'm not keeping track of two easters! just knowing when lent starts and ends is enough for me)
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Response 248 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 22, 2002 (18:36) * 3 lines
I'm Looking Sweetie!
That last calendar explanation was the easiest for me to understand. 18 days after ours. I wonder if that goes for all things or if Greece keeps two calendars. John, we need you!
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Response 249 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 22, 2002 (18:42) * 4 lines
Wolfie, check here http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KCASANPE1
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Response 250 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 22, 2002 (18:44) * 1 lines
I wish there was one for Volos somewhere. I'm still hunting!
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Response 251 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 22, 2002 (18:55) * 1 lines
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Response 252 of 1049: TheMaharaja (TheMaharaja) * Fri, Mar 22, 2002 (19:58) * 2 lines
I think I have found a dinasour tooth? I don't know anything about Archaeology
Can anyone help.
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Response 253 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 22, 2002 (22:14) * 7 lines
Maharaja, I know several personal contacts I can ask for you, or you may join this group and ask them. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/geofossils/
That Geo'fossils is both friendly and full of knowledgable people who would be happy to help you. I suggest you submit a picture - can you arrange to have a digital photo taken of it? If you email it to me, I can post it both here (Geo 7 which is my paleontology topic) and in Geo'fossils.
Good luck!
Most importantly Aloha and welcome to Geo!
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Response 254 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 23, 2002 (00:24) * 4 lines
Larissa is closer than is Athens - for John
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Response 255 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 23, 2002 (19:49) * 58 lines
~*~ Independence Day In Greece - March 25th ~*~
Traveling in Greece this
week? You're fortunate -
Independence Day on
Saturday, March 25th, will
fill the streets with parades
and celebrations, both
secular and sacred. In
Athens, military parades will
vie with church
celebrations, keeping the streets both busy and
sometimes blocked.
In 1821, Greeks vigorously rose up against the
oppressive Ottoman Empire which had occupied
Greece for nearly four hundred years, embarking on
the ultimately successful war of independence.
Bishop Germanos of Patras boldly raised the Greek
flag at the monastery of Agia Lavras, inciting the
Peloponnese to rise against the oppressors.
On this day in the Orthodox calendar, the archangel
Gabriel appeared to the maiden Mary and announced
the news: she was pregnant with the divine child.
Bishop Germanos chose this day to deliver a different
but not unrelated message: a new spirit was about
to be born in Greece. The churches celebrate the
Festival of the Annunciation with pomp, ceremony,
and joy. The spectacle is especially vivid on the
islands of Tinos and Idra (Hydra). Hydra, a maritime
merchant power with a swift, well-maintained fleet,
was a determined and effective supporter of the War
for Independence, doubling the celebration there.
You can also expect colorful religious ceremonies
wherever the local monastery or church is named
"Evangelisimos" or "Evangelistria", such as Panagia
Evangelistria on Tinos.
Travelers who don't throw themselves into the spirit
of the day may be frustrated with delays,
unexpected closures, and a general lack of
attentiveness by the Greeks, who are busy with the
dual holiday.
Greek Independence Day is also celebrated by many
of the Greeks of the diaspora, and large parades are
becoming more common in United States cities where
Greeks have made their homes, including Boston and
New York City. Each year, the U.S. President marks
the occasion with a proclamation reminding citizens
of the contributions of Greece to democracy, and of
the ongoing contributions of expatriate Greeks in
their new communities throughout the world.
http://gogreece.about.com/library/weekly/aa032400a.htm
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Response 256 of 1049: TheMaharaja (TheMaharaja) * Sat, Mar 23, 2002 (20:55) * 6 lines
Thanks for your advice to contact geofossils. I will do that. I will try to
send a digital picture of it to you too. Actually I had seen a program on the
Discovery channel and they showed a dinosaur's tooth, it resembled the one I had found that's why I became 90% sure that it was a dinosaur's
tooth.
Best Regards.
TheMaharaja
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Response 257 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 23, 2002 (21:02) * 3 lines
The source of the above information and a lot more about Greek Independence:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/bourdeka/25March.htm
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Response 258 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 23, 2002 (21:05) * 1 lines
Maharaja, Fatastic news. I'll also do some hunting for you and post it on Geo 7 which is my Paleo topic. Both are essentially picking the same worthy brains for information. I'm delighted you have fossils to find. My island is so new all we find is yesterday's buried lava flow and a new black sand beach.
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Response 259 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 23, 2002 (22:26) * 1 lines
Since the Mailto links no longer work here on the topics, Use the one on Geo/all to find my email address is marci@aloha.net. Sorry for not making that clear, Maharajah, sir!
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Response 260 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 23, 2002 (22:26) * 1 lines
NOW they work!!!
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Response 261 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (10:13) * 4 lines
Welcome Maharaja. Warm regards from Greece
John
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Response 262 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (14:43) * 5 lines
Greetings to the Maharaja!
Marcia, I did know that Orthodox Easter had to fall after the Jewish Passover. I didn't really know that the Vernal Equinox or full moons had much to do with Orthodox Easter. I thought that was for "Western" Easter.
Easter still retains some of its pagan origins. The name has been suggested to be a variant of that of the Babylonian goddess, Istar. She was Inanna to the Summerians and in the "Epic of Gilgamesh" was remarked as having sexual liasions with "gods, men, and animals". There are also supposed to have been the influences of European fertility goddesses in the celebration of Easter. Things like rabbits and eggs. As far a fertility goes, rabbits breed like, well, rabbits. As for eggs, their link to fertility is pretty evident. Marcia, do you know if there was there ever an ancient European fertility goddess with the name of Estore, or something similar. I think I read somewhere that the name "Easter" came from her name or festival.
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Response 263 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (23:11) * 25 lines
Cypriots mull giant offshore Aphrodite
The government of Cyprus is seriously considering a proposal to build a colossal statue of Aphrodite
balancing on a scallop shell off the island’s southwestern coast, in an attempt to attract more tourists,
reports said yesterday
The 50-million-dollar project is the brainchild of one Xanthos Menelaou, a London-based Cypriot
architect, who was inspired by Sandro Botticelli’s 15th-century painting of the ancient goddess of love
being wafted ashore by the winds. According to Greek myth, Aphrodite was born in the sea and first set
foot on land at Paphos, on western Cyprus.
Cypriot Tourism Minister Nikos Rolandis was impressed.
“Egypt has the Pyramids, London has the Tower, New York has the Statue of Liberty,” he said. “I believe
Cyprus needs an identity, and that should be Aphrodite... It will be a very imposing thing.”
Menelaou said Cyprus needs to be “upgraded as a product.”
“Romantic things like sea and sand don’t work any more.” The Cypriot Cabinet will discuss the idea on
April 3.
http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_politics_357385_23/03/2002_14707
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Response 264 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Mar 24, 2002 (23:19) * 1 lines
OEstre the fertility goddess of the Celts also took the form of a rabbit on occasion (their fertility is legendary) thus we have the OEstre bunny. How Ishtar got in on it is a recent development. I did my research in the early 80's and it was already well known in books written at the beginning of the 20th century. I suspect that the mother goddess has many permutations and you will find her everywhere in similar names. When the Romans conquered all Gaul and Britain thereafter they got many holidays and Godesses which they transformed into Christian belilef structures. (That bit of knoweldge sent me on another year's chase looking for evidence of that fact.)
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Response 265 of 1049: TheMaharaja (TheMaharaja) * Mon, Mar 25, 2002 (06:33) * 9 lines
Thanks to John and Cheryl for welcoming me The Maharaja.
I am enjoying reading some very intellectual discussions going on on this
site.
Marcia I will send you an email on your given email address and tell you more
about my finds. Yes, there is more.
My nick "The Maharaja" also has a story. It was given to me by my students.
I am an English Language teacher.
Best regards to all.
The Maharaja
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Response 266 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar 25, 2002 (14:51) * 3 lines
You will have had an email from me by now. I think your students have judged you well, and we welcome your input to Geo's topics. Even English majors can
inject science in to what they are teaching, and you just might influence some of your students to expand their horizons. Share you find and let them know there are good people on the internet looking for answers for you and for them.
I know - my major was English albeit, with a technical slant. Welcome and Aloha again, Maharaja.
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Response 267 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Mon, Mar 25, 2002 (16:43) * 1 lines
Thanks Marcia for the information on OEstre and OEstre as a rabbit. The Easter Bunny is female!
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Response 268 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar 25, 2002 (19:06) * 1 lines
Take a dose of Estrogen for Easter. Seems lots of things were named for her!
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Response 269 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Mon, Mar 25, 2002 (19:08) * 3 lines
Eat those soybean products, I suppose. They're full of plant estrogens.
Happy Easter!
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Response 270 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar 25, 2002 (19:13) * 1 lines
The Easter Bunny is not only female, but another symbol of Oestre is the egg - ususlly pink or red - so our Lady Bunny lays eggs. I wonder how they knew?!
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Response 271 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar 25, 2002 (19:17) * 1 lines
Being in estrus. Laying eggs. How remarkable! Especially colored as they were. I wonder where the turquoise eggs came from? Male bunnies?
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Response 272 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Mon, Mar 25, 2002 (19:28) * 1 lines
Maybe Lady Bunny was feeling very in touch with her masculine side when she laid those turquoise eggs?
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Response 273 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Mar 25, 2002 (19:33) * 1 lines
*Laugh* But, of course!!! I never thought of that! I won't ask about the green ones! Dr Seuss had just amde a house call?
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Response 274 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Mar 26, 2002 (01:43) * 25 lines
Greece observes 1821 War of Liberation anniversary
25/03/2002 16:37:59
Nationwide celebrations marking the 181st anniversary of Greece’s War of
Independence culminated on Monday with the annual military parade through
downtown Athens before tens of thousands of people and the country’s top
leadership.
As in previous years, President of the Republic Kostis Stephanopoulos and
the rest of Greece’s political and armed forces leadership viewed the parade from
grandstand in front of the country’s Parliament.
Stephanopoulos declined to make statements after the parade.
Prime Minister Costas Simitis cited, among others, Athens’ goal of leading – amid an
area plagued by crises over the past decade -- regional efforts for peace,
cooperation and development, all aimed at achieving the prosperity of both the
Greek people and other neighbouring peoples.
In his comments honoring Greek Independence Day -- March 25 --
Parliament President Apostolos Kaklamanis called on all forces in the country to
make every possible effort towards safeguarding unity and national consensus.
National Defence Minister Yiannos Papantoniou, meanwhile, offered his
assurances that Greece’s armed forces remain strong, reliable and effective, ready at
a moment’s notice to defend the country’s national sovereignty and territorial
integrity.
March 25, 1821 is officially celebrated as the beginning of the Greek nation's War of Liberation against dour Ottoman rule.
http://www.ana.gr/
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Response 275 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Wed, Mar 27, 2002 (01:05) * 3 lines
I feel difficult with a teacher of English here. I am sure that you have bad degree for my posts The Macharaja. I am sorry for my not correct English (I know that they are Greeklish), sir. I hope that you can understand what I want to say each time.
John
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Response 276 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Mar 27, 2002 (17:06) * 2 lines
If anyone complains, My Dear John, revert to posting in Ancient Greek and we are all going to be in great difficulty. I think TheMaharaja is much kinder than that. For someone whose English is self-taught, John, you are doing splendidly.
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Response 277 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Mar 27, 2002 (18:15) * 1 lines
john, i have no trouble with understanding what you're saying. thank you for your eloquence and modesty *HUGS*
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Response 278 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Fri, Mar 29, 2002 (03:18) * 10 lines
Can you imagine how they were clothed women and how they were adorned their face, 3800 years before, at the ancient Thera?
Wall-painting of Ladies and Papyri
Akrotiri, House of the Ladies. Mature Late Cycladic I period (17th century B.C.).
This is from: http://culture.gr/2/21/211/21121m/e21m18c.html
John
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Response 279 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Fri, Mar 29, 2002 (04:31) * 21 lines
Women in Minoan Culture
Images of women occur more frequently than men in the Minoan archaeological record, both on Crete and in the more recent excavations on the island of Thera. At both sites women are seen depicted in frescoes either alone or in groups.
Minoan Snake Goddess from Knossos, Crete (1600 BC)
(Archeological Museum, Herakleion)
One of the most revealing images of the status of women in Minoan society is the so-called Toreador fresco in which young women, shown with the conventional white skin, and darker-skinned men, engage in the dangerous sport that appears to involve somersaulting over the back of a charging bull.
Toreador Fresco from the East Wing of the Court of the Stone Spout, Knossos (1400 B.C.)
Fresco (restored). (Archaeological Museum, Herakleion)
Although it is difficult to decipher exactly what these figures are doing, the context and their proximity to the raging bull clearly denotes a game or ritual which involves bravery, agility, and skill, qualities which in any other contemporary eastern Mediterranean culture would be thought of as residing exclusively within the domain of men. That they are being demonstrated also by young women in the Minoan fresco strongly suggests that on ancient Crete women occupied a significant place in society.
http://witcombe.sbc.edu/snakegoddess/minoanwomen.html tml
John
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Response 280 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Fri, Mar 29, 2002 (15:44) * 1 lines
It would seem that Minoan women held a status equal to, or perhaps superior to that of men. We don't really know much about their culture except that it was one of, if not, the most highly advanced of its time. Part of the problem is that no one can read Linear A; it has yet to be decyphered.
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Response 281 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Fri, Mar 29, 2002 (15:58) * 1 lines
how interesting! several ancient cultures depicted women as goddesses, and the more voluptuous, the better!
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Response 282 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Fri, Mar 29, 2002 (15:59) * 1 lines
Linear A--how does one go about learning to decypher a cryptic language? will have to look this one up!
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Response 283 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 29, 2002 (23:02) * 1 lines
Liner A has not been decyphered - or am I remembering Linear B? I recall that from college archaeology courses and my reading since then. As for Minoan ladies - rather lower neckline than I am used to wearing. I suspected you might post these pictures. I wish they had been in archaeology, but I am happy to see them in any case. Thank you, John!
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Response 284 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Mar 29, 2002 (23:03) * 1 lines
Wolfie, you are not learning cryptography from your boss? There is a whole school of cryptographers currently employed (and in the past, too) by all governments, I think!
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Response 285 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Fri, Mar 29, 2002 (23:40) * 1 lines
oh, indeed not! have never heard of Linear A or B (since i've never taken an archaeology course). are there pictures of it somewhere? will have to do some more research on the minoan culture....my son finished up some studies on the maya (7th grade humanities) and he was very interested in that stuff--they're on to the vikings now.
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Response 286 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 30, 2002 (00:43) * 4 lines
A rather well-padded lady once confided to me that she had been born in the wrong century when I showed her the Willendorf "Venus"
http://witcombe.sbc.edu/willendorf/willendorfdiscovery.html
Happily or unhappily I seem to match the current version of beauty. This ancient "Venus" is over-endowed.
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Response 287 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Mar 30, 2002 (00:46) * 1 lines
Wolfie, see Geo 17 for discussion of Linear A & B and the Phaistos Disc
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Response 288 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Sat, Mar 30, 2002 (12:34) * 3 lines
did that, thanks sweetie...
oh, and a note about venus--famous designers are now creating styles for the real women of today--styles that are scaled correctly -- a size 0 and a size 14 are the same except for the size -- instead of making tents for those of us in the plus sizes... the average american woman wears a size 14 (and a 14 is not a plus size) and i have one thing to say, ree-head, the real women of this world are getting noticed!! (marcia, no slight on you, my dear twin, you are a real woman!)
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Response 289 of 1049: TheMaharaja (TheMaharaja) * Tue, Apr 2, 2002 (00:14) * 10 lines
John:
Marcia is absolutely right. Language is a means of communicating our
thoughts and if we understand the message then we are using the appropriate
language. Furthermore, I teach English to people who do not know anything
about it. So, you could call me "one-eyed teacher is TheMaharaja among the
blind".
I am increasing my knowledge just by reading your exchanges. Now, I know a
little about Aphrodite too, thanks to Marcia's explanation. I will now dig
into my encyclopedia and learn more about it.
The Maharaja
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Response 290 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Tue, Apr 2, 2002 (12:46) * 8 lines
You are very kind The Macharaja. I do justice to it. Hearing that you say for “one eye teacher”, I understand that you descend to my level, as must do it a Real Teacher.
You are very kind The Macharaja. I do justice to it. Hearing that you say for “one eye teacher”, I understand that you descend to my level, as must do it a Real Teacher. Ancient Greeks were adorers of beauty. They also were saying: “I am aging always learning.” It is absolutely true independently of the time I think. I really have some difficulties with my English but I am happy and I feel lucky that Geo family can understand what I try to say. In any case, I must thank you again.
My best regards
John
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Response 291 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Apr 2, 2002 (12:52) * 3 lines
just want to break in here and say hi to the maharaja. please tell us more about yourself.
john, i am an admirer of beauty and i get absolutely covered in goosebumps in the presence of it (be it nature, man-made, music, what-have-you).
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Response 292 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 2, 2002 (15:40) * 6 lines
Wolfie, of course you do. You are my "twin" after all.
Please inform me as to the comments of the Blind man. Both of you seem highly intelligent and literate. English has so many permutations that it is difficult to keep up with the current jargon. Some vernacular speech means the opposite from how it appears. "Cool" means Hot in the sense of popularity and up-to-date. I try to stay away from using such comments lest they be interpreted incorrectly.
In the land of the Blind the One-eyed Man is King!
We need all the one-eyed teachers we can get if this is the case and your students are the blind!
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Response 293 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Apr 2, 2002 (16:27) * 1 lines
MARCIA!!!!! have you received any of my messages???
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Response 294 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 2, 2002 (17:08) * 1 lines
Yes, I'll respond as soon as you sign off IM with me =)
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Response 295 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Apr 2, 2002 (17:09) * 1 lines
is that a hint or what? *LAUGH*
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Response 296 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 2, 2002 (17:23) * 1 lines
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Response 297 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 2, 2002 (17:25) * 1 lines
Now is it is time to welcome TheMaharaja to the Geo family with big warm *HUG* full of aloha and delight. You are now, part of this little family which will wecome and come to your rescue if needed. I am delighted you have found a home here! *HUGS*
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Response 298 of 1049: The Maharaja (TheMaharaja) * Wed, Apr 3, 2002 (18:13) * 12 lines
Thanks Marcia, John, Curious Wolfie for having me as a family member.
Curious Wolfie, I am a 54-year-young man. I was born and grew up in Karachi
Pakistan. Apart from Karachi I have lived in Saudi Arabia and England for
10 years and 18 years respectively. I have always been knowledge thirsty and
I like sharing it. I am married and have two daughters 24 & 20. What about
you all. May I know a little more about my family members.
Yes Marcia, you have given the correct proverb, I adapted it to suit my
profession.
The Maharaja
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Response 299 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Apr 3, 2002 (18:57) * 1 lines
You're currently living in England, Maharaja?
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Response 300 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Apr 3, 2002 (23:13) * 6 lines
Welcome to Geo, officially, TheMaharaja Sikander. We are delighted you have joined us. As the son of The Indus Valley, you represent the oldest known civilization. After we "pick your brains" (that is a compliment) about the rocks and fossils of Pakistan, I'd like you to mention anything archaeological in your vicinity. Dare I ask... do you know Sanscrit? As far as I know, the current ancient language person is John with Ancient Greek.
Your age is perfect. I was afraid I would become the mother figure if I admitted to being older than forty. You are in good company, and I consider you achieving the mature state of grace as does fine wine or brandy. Your students are fortunate, indeed. Do you get to take them on field trips?
We talk and respond in real time posts only when Hawaii (-10 UTC)evening matches up with the other side of the world's morning. We are a far-flung bunch, so you will find someone awake around the clock.
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Response 301 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Apr 3, 2002 (23:19) * 9 lines
For those interested and in the far-flung corners of the British Empire (even though it be faintly as in the US members) - give you the following websites for the life and funeral of Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother.
The House of Windsor's website:
http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/page1032.asp
The Times of London:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/section/0,,1582,00.html
My sincerest condolences to those who will miss her gracious presence and sense of humanity and humor. She was living history!
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Response 302 of 1049: The Maharaja (TheMaharaja) * Thu, Apr 4, 2002 (17:37) * 18 lines
No Terry I live in Karachi now. I guess I used the wrong tense,I should
have used the simple past.
You see John, here goes the reputation of the Maharaja's English.
No Marcia, I don't know any Sanskrit. I'm sure there are lots of places in
Pakistan that may be of interest to archaeologists. A find was made right
here in Karachi where digging was done for a commercial building. Some
intellectuals tried to get the construction stopped but their efforts were
no match to the money of the constructors.
I will once again be taking a trip to the Khir Thar mountains on 24th of this
month. I have a week off. I will try to take some photographs and send it
to you all.
Meanwhile, Aloha.
The Maharaja
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Response 303 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Apr 4, 2002 (18:51) * 1 lines
I'd love to see those pictures. Are you going mountain climbing? What's the altitude there?
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Response 304 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, Apr 4, 2002 (19:15) * 1 lines
are you safe in pakistan?
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Response 305 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Apr 5, 2002 (16:41) * 5 lines
Be Safe and take many pictures. My pockets would be full of specimens when I returned.
Antiquities and cities seem to go hand in hand, unhappily. The only time they find anything near London is when they are digging new foundations for yet another ugly high-rise building. And, without fail, the antiquities are hastily removed to a sterile site and the "progress" on the building continues. My sympathies.
I have only know one person who could actually read Sanscrit. I am happy you are well-versed in English (yes, you are!) It seems to be Geo's common tongue.
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Response 306 of 1049: The Maharaja (TheMaharaja) * Fri, Apr 5, 2002 (19:00) * 16 lines
Marcia, I didn't mention last time that I do take my students out on field
trips but they have to be away-day. Parents don't allow their daughters
to go on overnight trips, nor away from Karachi and quite rightly so, because
they know that many of their sons are outright perverts; they see girls as
only sex-object. I still haven't had any problems with my students during the
day-trips.
Yes, there is an archaeologist site some 350 miles north of Karachi. It is
called Mohanjo durro {pronounciation: Mo (as in no) han (as in shun) and durro
(as in borrough)}. That's where they have found clues to the Indus Valley
civilization. There is another smaller site some three-quarters of an hour's
drive east of Karachi. There is another site in the outskirts of Karachi
which most has very ancient graves.
I will definitely send you pictures of my trip. Hopefully, today I will go
and get the dinosaur's tooth scanned, it's my day-off.
The Maharaja
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Response 307 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Apr 5, 2002 (21:57) * 3 lines
The 39th annual Merrie Monarch Hula Festival is happening as I write this. Tonight is Hula Kahiko - ancient hula. Tomorrow night is Hula Awana - modern hula. Each night it starts at 6pm Hawaii standard time(-10 GMT)
http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/sponsors/hulafest/
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Response 308 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Apr 5, 2002 (22:06) * 6 lines
TheMaharaja, I am sorry that the current generation of students have no manners or no upbringing. This is true all over the world. Perhaps it is best that you do not have over-night field trips. I felt overly-protected when I was in college, but it was safe to walk in the darkess of night on campus without worrying about being assaulted. I truly am sorry, and I should have known this would be the case. I am delighted that you do get to take them on day trips. I can imagine it must be fascinating - or would be so for me!
Mohenjo-Daro is known world wide as one of the earliest cities ever discovered. I will post more about it in Geo 17 wherein lies things archaeological.
However, until you get there, try looking at this link.
http://emuseum.mnsu.edu/archaeology/sites/middle_east/mohenjo_daro.html
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Response 309 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Apr 6, 2002 (00:24) * 3 lines
Live video casting of the Merrie Monarch Hula Festival http://mfile.akamai.com/95/live/reflector:24015.ram
Tonight lasts until midnight Hawaii time. Tomorrow night's broadcast should be the best. Watch and see what it is like about 5 miles from me.
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Response 310 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Apr 6, 2002 (11:15) * 1 lines
Are you going to be attending? Should we look for you in the audience?
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Response 311 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Sat, Apr 6, 2002 (11:16) * 1 lines
hey, i was gonna ask that!
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Response 312 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Apr 6, 2002 (12:13) * 1 lines
But I asked first? Maybe you could ask her to elaborate?
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Response 313 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Apr 6, 2002 (14:25) * 3 lines
Merrie Monarch competition is held in our tennis stadium and the seats are both backless and HARD. No one local goes there if they can hslp it. Especially if it is extrememly crowded (as this is) and of great duration (6 hours tonight - at the very least.) So, from the comfort of my living room (and far more accessible bathroom facilities) I will be watching. However, I did think of being there for you to look for me as in "Where's Waldo." Tonight is the beautiful costumes, the familiar Hawaiian music, and exquisite flowers freshly picked from our forests. Each dancer picks her own while chanting special thanks to the gods and godesses from whose territory they are taking them.
You will also discover your computer video player will go blank from about 8-8:30 pm Hawaiian time. This is because they send the transmission back to Honolulu studios for the news. Usually it occurs at 10 pm but all times are contingent to what is happening at the Festival this weekend. A hui ho !
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Response 314 of 1049: The Maharaja (TheMaharaja) * Sat, Apr 6, 2002 (17:16) * 9 lines
Sorry Terry & Wolf for not answering your querry. Yes, it can be very
safe in Pakistan and highly insecure at times and places. The mountains
I visit have very hospitable people living there and I have felt safe.
However, people do keep warning me.
Marcia, I have seen the hula dancing in some of the movies. I think it's
a beautiful sight. I will visit Geo17 as soon as I have posted this.
The Maharaja
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Response 315 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Apr 6, 2002 (19:07) * 4 lines
At 0400 GMT you will be able to watch live from Hilo - this is the most beautiful form of Hula to the rest of the world, but it is the least authentic.
That being said, please watch and enjoy. http://mfile.akamai.com/95/live/reflector:24015.ram
I send you my fervent best wished and prayers for your continuing health and safety - and for that of your family. In my personal experience, Pakistan has only the kindest and most thoughtful people.
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Response 316 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 8, 2002 (16:29) * 5 lines
For those who wish to watch the funeral of Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother, on the internet you can watch on C-SPAN's website
http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/fullschedule.csp
Or on C-SPN on your local cable April 9th beginning at 2 PM local time in England which is 0000 GMT, midnight Hawaii time tonight (I'm taping it) and 6 AM
tomorrow morning on the East Coast of the US.
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Response 317 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Mon, Apr 8, 2002 (17:47) * 1 lines
Marcia, what time is that on the West coast?
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Response 318 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 8, 2002 (17:59) * 1 lines
3 AM California time. Better tape it, Esbee!
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Response 319 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Apr 21, 2002 (17:17) * 4 lines
Happy Earth Day - April 22
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Response 320 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (02:08) * 5 lines
Foucault's Pendulum
In honor of the Earth I post the following so you can see that we really do rotate. If you ever get the opportunity to see a Foucault Pendulum, do so by all means and spend enough time watching it until you feel the earth turning with you attached. It is really quite remarkable.
http://www.calacademy.org/products/pendulum/index.html
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Response 321 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (10:57) * 9 lines
Hi Marci
I had a chance to see a Foucault pendulum while in London (I think it was
at the science museum near Kensington) - neat stuff. Anyway, still alive
just busy with domestic putterings (i.e. building cabinets) and occasional
soldering.
73 de Mike
r-c-i
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Response 322 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (13:56) * 3 lines
Yup, it is in the set of science and tech nology museums on Brompton Road in Kensington. Near the V&A (Victoria and Albert Museum). They even have Toricelli's original Barometer, and a bunch of other original equipment. Best of all was their radio room which was full of the same old vacuum tube radios my dad used. That was fun! They also had a seismic detector map which lit little lights on a map when earthquakes were detected world wide. I asked the guard if Hawaii had lit up recently. He looked at me in astonishment and asked me if I lived "where it explodes." I said I did, but Hawaii does not explode. It turned out that he was from Martinique. No wonder he thought I was crazy!
I'd love to have a Foucault Pendulum, but my "rotunda" is not nearly big enough.
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Response 323 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (14:20) * 26 lines
Hi There
Ok, I didnt know the exact road but that sounds like the place. A neat place
still the same. I had a chance to see quite a bit of 'ye olde technology'
which always seems way cool as only old technolgy can be (i.e. nice wooden
cabinets, large meters, polished brass terminal strips) - it was as much
art as it was science.
I wish I could remember the tube stop near by the science museum - the one
that I would always take was Glouster (sp?) which was a short hike from where
I was staying. What a neat old neighborhood - it would have been so tres cool
to live there during my college years.
Regarding seismic stuff, I saw on the Gateway electronics web page, they
had a small motion sensor transducer - probably not what I would need for
seismic monitoring but neat just the same - of course, the seismic detectors
I have seen were basically 5 gallon plastic buckets with a large pickup coil
and a magnet suspended by a spring hangning from the lid.
I think that would be a major home renovation project to get the physical
infrastructure to support such a pendulum. Plus, you would have to find
a cannon ball for a pendulum bob.
73 de Mike
r-c-i
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Response 324 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (17:58) * 0 lines
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Response 326 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (18:05) * 3 lines
http://www.metropla.net/eu/lon/london.htm
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Response 327 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (18:07) * 2 lines
We used Gloucester Road station almost exclusively because it was right around the corner from where we were staying. Occcasionally we would get off at Kensington High Street, too. Lovely map!!!
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Response 328 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (18:09) * 1 lines
i saw something like that at the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History in D.C. it was waaaay cool!
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Response 329 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (18:22) * 5 lines
*sigh* i wanna go to London.
i know this lovely little hotel near Lancaster Gate -just across from the park.
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Response 330 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (18:44) * 1 lines
We stayed in a lovely converted regency row house that waw made into a hotel. We had a first floor (not ground floor) suite with a balcony and bathroom en suite. The Stanhope Court was its name but that was seemingly centuries ago. Our first trip we stayed in the Penta which was new at the time. Lovely. The second time it was pretty bad so we opted for a smaller hotel. Much nicer! EsBee, you NEED to go! Look at all of the research you could so. Especially if they are shooting a film with certain actor in it where you could watch!
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Response 331 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (19:01) * 5 lines
EsBee, you NEED to go!
LOL this is what i tell myself (practically on a daily bases)
unfortunately those pesky people at the bank keep taking all my $ in the form of a mortgage payment every month.... :-(
Still - it could be worse (at least i have a place to live) and i have a map of London posted just above my desk at work....
It's been two years since i've been to London -i think i'm in serious withdrawl...
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Response 332 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (19:03) * 4 lines
Look at all of the research you could so. Especially if they are shooting a film with certain actor in it where you could watch!
Ack! so tempting! so very tempting! *sigh*
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Response 333 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (19:24) * 1 lines
It has been your lifetime or longer since I was last in London. The Lovely thing about Europe is that they take such good care of our historic legacy. It will be waiting for you in beautiful condition when next you get to go. I wonder if I ever will again...*sigh*
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Response 334 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (19:34) * 5 lines
Course you will!
*singing* "She's got High Hopes! She's got High Hopes!"
hmm.... wondering if perhaps office mate has slipped vodka into my diet coke -*sniffing suspciously*
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Response 335 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (19:36) * 3 lines
In preparation for the upcoming ANZAC Day please read http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/screwed/163.880
It is Rob's eloquent comments on New Zealand patriotism. I will transport it here if he does not mind. It surely deserves a wider reading than Screwed Conference will give it, though a far different audience than Geo will afford.
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Response 336 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (19:48) * 1 lines
Happy Earth Day!
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Response 337 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Apr 22, 2002 (20:07) * 1 lines
Somewhere a ways back I posted a big rotating earth and a large green Happy earth Day. In Hawaii, we are celebrating with a gentle rain. My Dendrobium virginalis orchids will appreciate it.
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Response 338 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Tue, Apr 23, 2002 (11:50) * 13 lines
Hi Marci, Geoites and Happy Earth Day to All
I have only visited London twice but those were most wonderful visits.
No trips this year tho (sigh...) although I do get to go to Dayton, OH
for THE HAMVENTION which is the Mecca of Radio Geeks and Nerds
It was cold yesterday and today - in the 30's but it will be warming
up again - the trees are in bloom so Spring is slowly coming around.
Looks like some new folks are visiting Geo so Welcome!
73 de Mike
AA9IL
radio cosmo international
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Response 339 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 23, 2002 (14:47) * 5 lines
We have a great new eager bunch of literate people in Geo now, so that means I have to shape up and stop drifting off-topic all the time.
For anyone who has not seen Geo's new portal page and checked the links (including your local weather, Mike) http://www.spring.net/geo/
Hamfests are the greatest places for swapping both gear and war stories. Enjoy!
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Response 340 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Apr 23, 2002 (18:34) * 1 lines
Nah, they're gonna love us for being ourselves!! *HUGS*
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Response 341 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Tue, Apr 23, 2002 (19:09) * 1 lines
besides - this is Et Cetera ...isnt that where we should go off topic, if we are going to go off topic? :-D
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Response 342 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Apr 23, 2002 (19:59) * 1 lines
who, us? we NEVAH go OFF-TOPIC! *giggle*
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Response 343 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 23, 2002 (21:00) * 5 lines
Let's hear it for those who drift off-topic. I learn more that way than any other! EsBee, I'm so glad you have joined the continental drift - and the topic drift as well! *BIG HUGS*
I guess they will have to like me the way I am. I am pretty good at being me and a total failure as anyone else *;)
Don't know if I like that gold globe on the title page. The red one was TOO much red and the natural one was a little small. The gold would be perrfect if it did not have the shadow. I'm working on it...
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Response 344 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Tue, Apr 23, 2002 (21:22) * 17 lines
Hi Marci and Geoites
Marci, no problem with drifting off topic - I like the variety.
This is way off topic but this evening, I took the 10ghz transverter
out to Lake Michigan and copied a 10ghz beacon from across the lake
in Grand Haven, MI. (W2UHI). Signals were S9 (very strong). This
is due to the superior over water propgation characteristics as well
as temperature inversions. Distance is a little under 100 miles.
Antenna was a microwave horn - looks like a four sided pyramid about
4 inches by 4 inches at the opening and 4 inches to the antenna feed
back from the opening. The actual antenna feed is a waveguide probe
about .8 cm in length.
Woo hoo!
73 de AA9IL
Mike
r-c-i
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Response 345 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 23, 2002 (21:30) * 4 lines
Woo Hoo, Indeed, Cosmo! Far out and fantastic, too. Those horns work really well and are easy to make - relatively - and fit in your car better than a 5 element beam might *;)
Drift and enjoy your warming weather. Just keep gear grounded and not via You!
How very perfect it must be to have sky like we currently have, Heavens Abiove to let you know what satellites you are seeing (if it matters) and all sorts of celestial bodies to admire. Speaking of which, are there any good looking lady hams in your area? One who is a good minnight snack provider? That would be perfect! Meanwhile, we will keep you company!
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Response 346 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Wed, Apr 24, 2002 (12:51) * 9 lines
YL hams are few and far between in these parts but I have the midnight snack
covered no problem.
I was just amazed at the signal quality with the tiny antenna - usually I
would bring out the big iron - i.e. a two foot dish. Anyway, now working
on setting up some skeds with the other local microwave nuts.
73 de AA9IL
Mike
r-c-i
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Response 347 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Wed, Apr 24, 2002 (13:28) * 6 lines
(Marcia)EsBee, I'm so glad you have joined the continental drift - and the topic drift as well! *BIG HUGS*
*BIG HUG* right back. :-)
You'll find i'm only going to post here at etc though.... am unfortunately V. ignorant re most things Geo. i read with interest, but only comprehend a bit of what is posted.
Now, if you were hosting a History Topic... (any one up for a rousing discusion of Harold BlueTooth?) ;-)
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Response 348 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Apr 24, 2002 (18:03) * 4 lines
Harold works. I shove history in the archaeology of anthropology topic. I considered being a history major but opted for earth sciences instead. I klove the names of the old Frankish kings. Whomever the Fat... the Bald, the Sluggard.
Wonder what they might have called Clinton... *;)
Go for it, Mike. Next I'll be hearing them schedule EME with another guy. That really fascinates me.
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Response 349 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Apr 24, 2002 (18:07) * 13 lines
ANZAC DAY 2002
ANZAC was the name given to the Australian and New Zealand
Army Corps soldiers who landed on the Gallipoli Peninsula in
the East Mediterranean early on the morning of 25 April 1915
during the First World War (1914-1918).
As a result, one day in the year has involved the whole of
Australia in solemn ceremonies of remembrance, gratitude and
national pride for all our men and women who have fought and
died in all wars. That day is ANZAC Day - 25 April.
http://www.anzacday.org.au/
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Response 350 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Apr 24, 2002 (18:10) * 22 lines
NEW ZEALAND Broadcasters join for Anzac Day tribute
25.04.2002 10.05 am
All radio and television stations in New Zealand broadcast
an identical 2-minute Anzac Day tribute at 10am today.
The organiser of the synchronised tribute, broadcaster Sue
Scott, told National Radio she hoped the broadcast would
help young New Zealanders observe Anzac Day.
"The younger people really need to have something to
continue to remember their forebears by and, because this
is incorporating youth stations as well … it is something
they can participate in."
The broadcast included 6 seconds of silence and the
playing of the Last Post.
© 2002 New Zealand Herald
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Response 351 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Apr 24, 2002 (18:17) * 150 lines
ANZAC DAY
is held on 25 April each year to commemorate New Zealanders killed in
war and to honour returned servicemen and women. The ceremony itself has been continually
adapted to the times, but has also steadily acquired extra layers of symbolism and meaning.
The Dawn Service
A typical commemoration begins with a march by returned service personnel before dawn to
the local war memorial. Military personnel and returned service-men and -women form up about
the memorial, joined by other members of the community, with pride of place going to the war
veterans. A short service follows with a prayer, hymns (including Kipling's 'Recessional' or 'Lest
We Forget'), and a dedication which concludes with the last verse of Laurence Binyon's 'For the
Fallen':
They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.
The Last Post is then played, followed by a minute's silence and Reveille. A brief address
follows, after which the hymn 'Recessional' is sung. The service concludes with a closing prayer
and the singing of the National Anthem.
The Anzac Parade
Another ceremony takes place later that morning, with returned service personnel wearing their
medals, and marching behind banners and standards. The veterans are joined by other
community groups, including members of the armed forces, the Red Cross, cadets, and
veterans of other countries' forces. The march proceeds to the local war memorial, where
another service takes place, including the laying of wreaths by various organisations and
members of the public. This service is a less intimate and emotional
ceremony than the dawn service, but serves as a more public
commemoration. The speech, usually by an important dignitary,
serviceman, or returned serviceman or woman, tends to be of a
conservative nature, with much stress on nationhood and remembrance.
After these services, many of the veterans retire to the local RSA club or
hotel, where they enjoy coffee and rum (in the case of the dawn service)
and 'unwind' after an emotionally and, for elderly veterans, physically exhausting event. At the
end of the day, the ceremony of the 'Retreat' is performed.
1915: GALLIPOLI REMEMBERED
The first public recognition of the landings at Gallipoli took place on 30 April 1915, after news of
the dramatic event had reached New Zealand. A half-day holiday was promptly declared for
government offices, flags were flown, and patriotic meetings were held around the country.
Descriptions of the landings (and casualty lists) were eagerly read, while newspapers gushed
about the heroism of the New Zealand soldiers. From the
outset, public perceptions of the landings at Anzac Cove
were imbued with strong feelings of national pride. The
eventual failure of the Gallipoli operation enhanced its
sanctity in the public mind; the courage and sacrifice of the
New Zealand soldiers in adversity was highlighted.
1916: A Half-Day Holiday
Demands for some form of remembrance on the anniversary of the landing on the peninsula,
both as a public expression of grief and as a means of rallying support for the war effort, were
soon being heard. A half-day public holiday was gazetted on 5 April 1916, and church services
and recruiting meetings were proposed. Among the growing body of returned servicemen,
however, such an approach was an anathema — 'the boys don't want to be split up among
twenty or thirty different churches on Anzac Day, and it is certain they don't want to go to a
meeting to hear people who haven't been there [to war] spout and pass resolutions'. Instead,
returned soldiers preferred a public service conducted by an army chaplain.
THE CEREMONY: PROCESSIONS & SPEECHES
From the beginning, returned servicemen claimed 'ownership' of the commemoration. In the
event, commemorations were marked by processions of returned and serving service
personnel, followed by church services and public meetings at town halls. Speeches extolled
national unity, imperial loyalty, remembrance of the dead, and the need for young men to
volunteer (conscription was imminent). Large crowds attended the commemorations, 2000 at
the Anzac Day service in Rotorua, for example. In London the landing day was marked by a
procession of 2000 Australian and New Zealand troops and a service at Westminster Abbey.
New Zealand soldiers in Egypt commemorated the day with a service and the playing of the
Last Post, followed by a holiday, including sports. In August 1916, after lobbying by returned
soldiers, the use of the word 'Anzac' was prohibited for trade or business purposes, further
enshrining the Anzac myth and the sacredness of the commemoration.
World War One: A Patriotic Ceremony
A similar pattern of 25 April processions of servicemen, church services, and public meetings
continued for the rest of the war. These were generally organized by the New Zealand Returned
Soldiers' (later Services') Association in cooperation with local
authorities. The ceremony was an opportunity to stimulate
patriotism, in which the righteousness of the war and New
Zealand's place as part of the British Empire were stressed.
However, after the war the service quickly lost its patriotic
function, becoming more explicitly a remembrance of the war
dead. Gradually standardized after the war, the ceremony was
essentially a re-enactment of a military funeral. It would be
conducted around a bier of wreathes and a serviceman's hat,
with a firing party with heads bowed and a chaplain to read the
words from the military burial service. Three volleys would be
fired by the guard, and the Last Post played, followed by a
prayer, hymn, and benediction. Nevertheless, there was continual adaptation of the service. The
funeral bier in halls was replaced by public war memorials as these were erected throughout
the 1920s.
A Move to Memorials
The move to Anzac Day commemorations at public war memorials rather than in town halls or
churches signified an increasing secularization of the ceremony. Despite occasional protests
from churches, it was RSA leaders, servicemen, and local politicians who increasingly made
the speeches, rather than clergymen. The laying of wreaths became more central to the
ceremony, while fewer speeches were made and hymns sung. On the other hand, the presence
of the uniformed members of the armed forces in many places became accepted as part of the
march and service. Gradually throughout the 1920s the Anzac Day service became less and
less akin to a mournful funeral.
25 APRIL 1921: A PUBLIC HOLIDAY
The day itself was not marked as a public holiday until 1921. Peace was celebrated from 19 to
21 July 1919, but no official day of commemoration for the war was at first instituted. The
government was prepared to move St George's Day to 25 April and declare that day to be a
government holiday. However, the public was not greatly excited by government holidays, which
in the main were religious observances or patriotic occasions, while Dominion Day, the
self-styled 'National Day', possessed no emotional appeal. While not an official holiday, Anzac
Day had already acquired a strong appeal among the public. Not until 1920 did the government
respond to RSA lobbying for 25 April to be declared a holiday. Although legislation was passed
which made Anzac Day a public holiday, with hotels and banks closed and race meetings
prohibited, this did not meet RSA demands for the day to be 'Sundayised'. In 1922 the
government backed down and 25 April became a full public holiday as if it were a Sunday.
Themes of Nationhood & Peace
Throughout the 1920s and 1930s, Anzac Day was marked with varying degrees of public
enthusiasm. Common themes in the speeches were New Zealand nationhood, national unity,
imperial loyalty, sacrifice, and a desire for peace. While some of a left-wing bent and members
of anti-war movements criticised the commemoration as militarist, most New Zealanders
regarded the day as sacred — an expression of sorrow rather than an opportunity to glorify war.
During the Depression Anzac Day provided a forum to extol the ideals of unity and
selflessness.
The 1930s: Lest We Forget
As the international situation deteriorated in the 1930s, Anzac Day speeches increasingly
focused on the need for defence preparations and the importance of not forgetting past
lessons. The numbers of marchers increased, too, during the late 1930s, perhaps because
returned servicemen, as they aged, became more interested in commemorating their war
experiences through public ritual. Anzac Day began to take on the characteristic of an annual
reunion for many returned servicemen. This was exemplified by the 1300-strong contingent of
New Zealand returned servicemen which participated in the Anzac Day ceremony in Sydney in
1938. It was from Australia that the dawn parade, commemorating both the
time of the initial landings at Gallipoli and the routine dawn 'stand-to' in the
trenches, was introduced to New Zealand for Anzac Day in 1939. The cold
and darkness breaking into sunrise added to the symbolism of the occasion.
more... and images... http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/Gallery/Anzac/Anzacday.htm
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Response 352 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Apr 24, 2002 (18:26) * 1 lines
Rob attended the Dawn Service in Christchurch. Perhaps he might comment on the day. The weather was ideal, I understand.
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Response 353 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Apr 24, 2002 (19:42) * 1 lines
Happy Anzac Day!
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Response 354 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Apr 24, 2002 (21:11) * 1 lines
*Hugs* Wolfie!
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Response 355 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Thu, Apr 25, 2002 (09:07) * 10 lines
Hi all and Happy ANZAC day!
No eme yet but plenty of interest in regular tropo microwave contacts.
If the weather stays good then I can go out to the lake without fear
of lake effect snow. Shortwave propagation is very good however - the
BBC was coming in last night quite well (Asia service since the North American
service was discontinued sigh....)
73 de Mike
AA9IL
r-c-i
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Response 356 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Apr 25, 2002 (16:39) * 4 lines
I grab the pacific service now that the North American service of the BBC has been discontinued. I miss it, too. Not nearly as much cricket as in the old days. I miss that, too.
When you talk about snow, you are not talking interference in your signals. You're talking white stuff you have to shovel!!! Happily, in Hawaii, they make it stay way up on the mountains where we only have to look at it. 
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Response 357 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Apr 26, 2002 (23:43) * 0 lines
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Response 358 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Apr 27, 2002 (04:11) * 43 lines
A very dear freind lives a few blocks from this event's location. Don, you need to come in and say hello to the good folks.
The Kentucky Derby Festival's Opening Ceremonies, "Thunder
Over Louisville", will feature a patriotic theme this year--
"A Stars and Stripes Thunder". Thunder offers an explosive
kick off to two weeks of celebration in Louisville. The 13th
annual event will be held on April 20th, beginning with the
air show that features military and civilian aircraft, sky-
divers, stunt teams, and a fly-by of the world's largest
American flag. Some members of the skydiving team have been
performing for 24 years and have made over 3,500 parachute
jumps.
In just 13 years, what started as a better than average fire-
works display has become the pinnacle of pyrotechnics. The
secret has been to pack as much firepower into 28 minutes as
possible. Music will be broadcast over the world's largest
sound system to the Thunder event venue. More than 2,000
people are involved in making Thunder a safe and enjoyable
show.
Thunder Over Louisville is the nation's largest annual fire-
works event. It is also one of the top five air shows in the
country. After the 1990 event, the producers realized that
the sound particularly rolled across the landscape like
thunder. Thus, the show demanded a title that adequately re-
flected its intensity, and this is how the event got its name.
In 2001, Thunder generated more than $31 million for the local
economy. The total economic impact for the entire 70 events of
the Derby Festival is estimated at $93 million.
Here are some great sites suggested by Rebecca:
Derby Festival History:
http://www.kdf.org/content/aboutus-history.asp
Thunder History:
http://www.thunderoverlouisville.org/thehistory/
Kentucky Derby (Rebecca's favorite part is "Experience"):
http://www.kentuckyderby.com/
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Response 359 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Apr 27, 2002 (04:15) * 35 lines
HOW MANY FIREWORK SHELLS ARE USED IN THE "THUNDER OVER LOUISVILLE" EVENT?
More than 51,333 shells will be used in the 2002 show. That
compares to 7,200 used at the first Thunder over Louisville
along the Ohio River.
***
Electrical impulses travel from the skin toward the
spinal cord at a rate of up to 425 feet per second.
***
WHAT IS THE ESTIMATED ATTENDANCE FOR THE 2002 "THUNDER OVER LOUISVILLE" EVENT?
Estimated average attendance of half a million people is
expected, making it the largest event in its region.
HOW MANY STORMS OCCUR OVER THE EARTH?
At any given time, there are 1,800 thunderstorms in progress
over the Earth's atmosphere. Lightning strikes the Earth 100
times every second.
***
Fireworks have a wide range of burn times but on average
the items within a pack will last about 30 seconds unless
otherwise indicated. Thus a 20 item pack may be expected
to provide a display lasting about 10 minutes.
***
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INJURED BY FIREWORKS ANNUALLY IN THE U.S.?
About 40 percent of the almost 13,000 people who are injured
during the year from fireworks (over half of whom are children)
are simply bystanders. Bottle rockets, firecrackers and spark-
lers top the list of fireworks causing the most injuries requir-
ing hospitalization. Sparklers burn at about 1800 degrees
Fahrenheit.
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Response 360 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Apr 30, 2002 (19:47) * 7 lines
It is Holy Week (called GREAT WEEK) in the Orthodox Church.
HAPPY EASTER
KALO PASKA
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Response 361 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Apr 30, 2002 (20:08) * 1 lines
yes indeed--Happy Easter to all our Greek friends!!!
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Response 362 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Wed, May 1, 2002 (17:50) * 2 lines
This is totally and completely off topic, but.... Marcia, would Lizzy know what steel was?
As in "his arms encircled her like bans of steel"
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Response 363 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, May 1, 2002 (21:52) * 1 lines
Make those arms like iron bands (as in "the village smithy") and you are home free. The Celts had iron long ago.
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Response 364 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, May 1, 2002 (21:56) * 1 lines
To be more specific, if you get into what makes iron into "steel" you get into a technology nightmare that includes meteoritic steel swords and Damascus steel and workings of very indefinite age. The moors had a quenching technique but Henry Bessamer has the pride of place for making the first industrial steel - in Britain - in the mid 1800's.
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Response 365 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Thu, May 2, 2002 (10:42) * 4 lines
Thanks! *big grin*
i knew you'd know! somehow history of metal never sunk in very deep.
You still interested in editing???
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Response 366 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, May 2, 2002 (15:34) * 1 lines
For you, Absolutely!!! As I recall we got on famously. We can even discuss it via IM if you wish.
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Response 367 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Thu, May 2, 2002 (16:02) * 3 lines
*wispering*
am at work, so cant really im
will email you :-)
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Response 368 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, May 2, 2002 (17:34) * 1 lines
Oops Ok!
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Response 369 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Thu, May 2, 2002 (18:20) * 6 lines
is actually ok, as boss just called from Antigua, where she's sunbathing on a private yacht, and getting drunk on margaritas. (you think i'm making this up)
i just dont have IM on my work PC, and our IT guy is so busy, i feel bad recuriting him to help me with non-work related stuff.
*pouting*
why am i not the boss? is not fair!
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Response 370 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, May 3, 2002 (00:11) * 1 lines
Sounds like she could at least share with you!!! How unkind of her!
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Response 371 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, May 4, 2002 (01:00) * 48 lines
Greek Orthodox Easter
Greek Easter, the country's most important religious festival, arrives accompanied
by the smells of spring, the rebirth of nature and the flower-carpeted ground.
Many of the traditions that bond the generations together occur during the Easter
feast. Easter is the most sacred and celebrated of all of the Greek holidays. It
begins with a 40-day fast, of the 40 days, one week is chosen for the complete
fast, during that time only natural foods are eaten. No meats, dairy, fish, poultry
or dishes that are prepared with these foods can be eaten. Shellfish can be eaten,
however three days a week are meatless days during the remaining weeks of the
fast. During Holy Week complete fasting is to take place. Palm Sunday, which is the first day of the Holy
Week, is a day when only fish and fish courses are served.
On Saturday before Easter, the food that will be served on Easter Sunday is taken to the church and
blessed by the priest.
The red eggs for just after the Resurrection and the traditional Resurrection soup, "mageritsa," will be the
wife's first concern, and her preparations will begin early in the Holy Week.
That preparation means the cleaning and decoration of the house, the baking of the Easter biscuits and
bread and the dyeing of the eggs.
During Holy Week the churches are full each evening as the people follow, once more the Passion of Our
Lord. Then at midnight on the Saturday the bells ring out joyfully: the faithful, candles lit, can celebrate the
Resurrection.
The meal afterwards consists of the "mageritsa," the red eggs are knocked and the traditional phrase
"Christ is risen" will be heard all around the table.
On Easter Sunday, spit-roast lamb is the centerpiece of the table. In the early morning the spits will be
turning in the courtyards and under the shady trees as the lamb "kokoretsi" is slowly cooked, and the
aroma of the roasting lamb wafts from one end of Greece to the other.
I have brought together for you some of the most delicious recipes of Greek Easter. Serve the dishes with
plenty of green salads particularly lettuce, which in Greece is in season at Eater, lots of good red wine or
retsina.
If you get a chance to celebrate Easter in Greece, do not pass it up; it will mean song, dance and "Kefl"
around the fire pit as the spit slowly revolves cooking the lamb.
http://www.globalgourmet.com/destinations/greece/greekeaster.html
Happy Easter, John from GEO
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Response 372 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Sat, May 4, 2002 (12:45) * 1 lines
Happy Easter, John!
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Response 373 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, May 4, 2002 (12:52) * 1 lines
John is very busy. He is roasting two whole lambs for the great family feast. He will be scarce until after the holiday. I miss him already.
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Response 374 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Mon, May 6, 2002 (19:43) * 1 lines
I hope that John and his family enjoy their holiday and their family feast immensely. I'm certain that everything will be delicious. Two whole lambs. That should be a rather large family feast.
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Response 375 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Thu, May 9, 2002 (14:04) * 11 lines
Hi All
Easter is the greater feast in the east orthodox church. It changes life rhythms in Greece. This consuetude is very strong. It is a good chance to centralize whole family even its members are living to far.
It is a feast of love for all. It is a good chance for common festive, carousal, and amusement. Is welcome everyone person though it is foreign and unknown. My family is increased this year by the marriage of my daughter. I have here friends from Athens and from Crete too. You can see about the same picture in every Greek house.
This is some flavor of the Easter celebration in my house. This is a photo of my family feast. See the roasting of the two lambs and the part of the lunch table.
John
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Response 376 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Thu, May 9, 2002 (15:59) * 2 lines
V. Cool pics John!
Thanks for sharing!! :-)
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Response 377 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Thu, May 9, 2002 (17:47) * 1 lines
It looks to have been a wonderful feast and family get together, John. Thanks for posting the photos.
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Response 378 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, May 9, 2002 (21:10) * 1 lines
*licking my virtual fingers* and wishing I had been one of your dogs! Did they get the bones as part of their Easter feast? Thank you for submitting these photos. They are wonderful. Beautiful weather and good company. I cannot think of anything you lacked!
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Response 379 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, May 9, 2002 (21:40) * 1 lines
looks like you guys had a great time, john *HUGS*
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Response 380 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Fri, May 10, 2002 (02:43) * 8 lines
May is also the month of spring in Greece.
This is for all of you with my great thanks for your wishes.
John
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Response 381 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Fri, May 10, 2002 (02:43) * 5 lines
Hi B.J,
Your place is already included in Geo portal. You can see your time/temperature, Weather (recent & forecasts) and your Sky upwards of your head in real time. Try it and good sky exploration.
John
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Response 382 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Fri, May 10, 2002 (17:55) * 1 lines
the flowers are lovely john!!
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Response 383 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, May 11, 2002 (00:26) * 1 lines
As always, the great poetic soul of our Greek oracle's high priest graces Geo with beautiful flowers. Mahalo, John and *Hugs* to Geo's co-host.
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Response 384 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, May 11, 2002 (01:11) * 7 lines
Happy Birthday, AnneH
White fragrant 3-Strand Pikake flower leis twined together with a
traditional Ti-leaf lei.
Beautiful and fragrant.
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Response 385 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Sat, May 11, 2002 (11:24) * 1 lines
happy birthday AnneH!! (what a contemporary looking lei--at first glance, i thought those were pearl onions!)
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Response 386 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Sat, May 11, 2002 (12:46) * 5 lines
Happy birthday AnneH!! My best wishes for happiness life.
A bouquet of fragrant roses to you.
John
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Response 387 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, May 12, 2002 (00:23) * 0 lines
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Response 388 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, May 12, 2002 (00:25) * 4 lines
Happy Mother's Day
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Response 389 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Sun, May 12, 2002 (06:33) * 1 lines
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Response 390 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, May 12, 2002 (12:54) * 2 lines
John, that is so beautiful. Thank you for being so thoughtful.
Warmest *HUGS*
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Response 391 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Sun, May 12, 2002 (13:54) * 1 lines
Happy Birthday to AnneH.
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Response 392 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Sun, May 12, 2002 (13:56) * 3 lines
Happy Mothers Day to all the moms at Geo.
Happy Mothers Day, as well, to Gaia, the Earth, who is the mother of us all.
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Response 393 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, May 13, 2002 (01:58) * 2 lines
I have been acquainting Lance with the new denizens of Geo since he was last here. I fear John is being victimized by his electric supplier again. Lancwe asked Is he on GECKO? Greek Electric Company Keeping Offline? How lovely to have a reason to find humor in missing someone. John, I hope all is well with you.
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Response 394 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, May 13, 2002 (02:00) * 1 lines
I guess my erroneous typing that is not being caught by my eyes is telling me to shut down and go to bed. G'night all. Good Morning, John!
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Response 395 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, May 13, 2002 (22:48) * 4 lines
IKI
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Response 396 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Tue, May 14, 2002 (11:01) * 1 lines
Happy Birthday Iki!! :-)
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Response 397 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Tue, May 14, 2002 (18:24) * 1 lines
A very Happy Birthday, Iki!
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Response 398 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, May 14, 2002 (19:49) * 1 lines
Happy Birthday Iki!!!!!!!!!!!! *HUGS*
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Response 399 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, May 14, 2002 (22:01) * 1 lines
He will be delighted.
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Response 400 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, May 16, 2002 (01:05) * 16 lines
This idea is brilliant. I am definitly living in the wrong contry
Olympic Education in ‘2004 and beyond’
An ambitious program of Olympic Education projects that focuses on developing a volunteer spirit
among schoolchildren was announced yesterday by Deputy Education Minister Eleni Kourkoula.
Over 29 million euros from the Culture Ministry’s Olympic Games General Secretariat are to go toward
funding the projects.
The Education Ministry has invited schools, municipalities and non-governmental organizations to
propose activities promoting culture, sport, the Olympic truce and the abolition of social exclusion.
Kourkoula said that schoolchildren had already shown a great interest in the program, whose slogan is
“2004 and beyond,” reflecting the ministry’s goal of taking the volunteer spirit beyond the needs of the
2004 Olympic Games.
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Response 401 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Fri, May 17, 2002 (09:34) * 3 lines
Birthdays are refreshing mothers memories rather than children’s celebrations. In any case my best wishes to IKI for success and long life and the best to his mother that is usually the invisible hero.
John
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Response 402 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Fri, May 17, 2002 (11:20) * 1 lines
That was v. sweet John *grin*
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Response 403 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Fri, May 17, 2002 (13:08) * 7 lines
This is something for your eyes.
PONTIKONISI or MOUSE-ISLAND in GREECE, CORFU ISLAND
John
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Response 404 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Fri, May 17, 2002 (13:19) * 5 lines
Thank you ES-BE
It is the truth I think. But birthdays are also a good chance to break our monotony. "Smile".
John
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Response 405 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Fri, May 17, 2002 (13:30) * 1 lines
lovely little island - looks very peaceful and picturesque :-)
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Response 406 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Fri, May 17, 2002 (15:06) * 5 lines
Indeed ES-BE
It looks like a remaining stone on the God's sieve from those that were created Greece. (See topic 28/ response 151). Who knows that it was so beautiful? But it is devoted to God as you see.
John
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Response 407 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Fri, May 17, 2002 (16:11) * 1 lines
An excellent use for such a lovely spot. :-)
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Response 408 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, May 18, 2002 (18:39) * 3 lines
John Dear, I looked at your exqiisit photograph and decided it was a miniature model of a tiny Greek island. On closer inspection, it is one of your magnificent classic stucco buildings on the only sea I know that is as blue as the Pacific is in Hawaii. Thank you for sharing more eye-candy.
Birthdays are special because they remind me how much better my life is for particular people having been born. Iki naturally comes to mind. Thank you!
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Response 409 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Tue, May 21, 2002 (05:32) * 3 lines
Birthdays of our children’s is reminding us our past. But our birthdays is reminding us our parents and its life mainly. I remember how slow was the life of my parents and I wonder what is the maximum speed of the recent life. I don’t know but I fear that today’s increasing momentum is destroying any flavour and any essence from the human’s life. Where is the pedal of brakes?
John
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Response 410 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, May 21, 2002 (14:36) * 1 lines
John, if you ever discover the pedals for the brakes of life, please tell me their secret location. They exist here, but it makes life difficult when we must interact with the rest of humanity. That is why travel does not appeal to me as much as it used to do. When I get to California or even Honolulu, my pulse quickens and my heart races - neither of which I find pleasing. My ability to cope with masses of rushing humanity becomes less with each passing year. Our world has become very complex! Come to Hawaii and enjoy the pursuits of your inner child.
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Response 411 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Tue, May 21, 2002 (21:41) * 19 lines
I think the term is Koyaanisqatsi (Hopi for 'Life out of balance') - this
came to mind from a film I saw many years ago in a different epoc of my
life. It must have been during that time I just wanted to hyper accelerate
through all the mundane of life to the conclusion. Sort of blowing off the
9 course meal for the desert. Years and some wisdom later, I am doing the
slowing down thing as well. Problem is that now I have numerous diversions
and interest pulling me in all ways. There are days when I work on stuff
and there are days I dont even turn the computer on. Life is cyclic
between those extremes to varying degrees. It is good I have these
diversions but even now, I try to do a technical Feng Shui and isolate
and focus on one primary project task - I fail miserably at this the same
as when I look at several cases of books (technical,philosophical, foolishness)
and try to decide which ones I will keep and which I will get rid of.
I guess, ultimately, this will all be decided but for now, I keep bouncing
around life's sampler.
73 de Mike
AA9IL
r-c-i
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Response 412 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, May 21, 2002 (23:52) * 3 lines
Your tastes are eclectic, Mike. That is the best of all worlds. You will never be bored. I am like that also. I continue to read several books at the same time and discuss the most mundane or most abstruse subjects depending on the company or lack thereof. Keep at it. Your like will be much the richer for it!
I like your Hopi. I think I need to read more!
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Response 413 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, May 21, 2002 (23:54) * 1 lines
Let us know of your success with technical Feng Shui. I wish you luck!
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Response 414 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, May 25, 2002 (22:58) * 23 lines
This ship is currently docked in Hilo Harbor. Ihave never seen such a large civilian ship! It makes little Hilo look very tiny, indeed.
Tonnage 91,000
Length 964.6 feet
Beam 105.6 feet
Draught 26.3 feet
Cruising Speed 24 knots;
Guest Decks 11;
Elevators 10;
Electric Current 110/220 AC;
Country of Registry Liberia;
Classification Society Lloyd¹s Register;
Engines/Propellers Gas Turbines/Pods;
Guest Capacity (basis two) 1950;
Guest Staff Ratio 2:1;
Space Ratio 46.6;
Crew;
Crew Size: 999;
Nationality of Officers: Greek
Nationality of Hotel Staff: European/International
Nationality of Cruise Staff: European/American
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Response 415 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, May 25, 2002 (23:03) * 1 lines
I wish I had known it was here. I would have looked a lot more carefully and taken some of my own photos of it so you could see how enormous it truly is. With 1000 Greeks in town, perhaps I could have gotten one to teach me a bit of the language! *Sigh* Imagine ME on a tropical island with 1000 Greek men and my not knowing it?! That photo does not do it justice. It is absolutely enormous.
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Response 416 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, May 25, 2002 (23:12) * 1 lines
Want to check out this lovely ship? http://www.royalcaribbean4me.com/celebrity_cruises/Infinity/celebrity_cruises_infinity.htm
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Response 417 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Mon, May 27, 2002 (20:50) * 1 lines
it's a celebrity cruise ship, then? wow!
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Response 418 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, May 28, 2002 (00:04) * 1 lines
Indeed ! That ship elicits "WOW" from people who have never uttered the word before. You really cannot understand the vast size of this ship unless you are standing right beside it. They presented Hilo with 3000 new visitors in a single day. That is a sizeable percentage of the local population! In fact, it is about 10% of Hilo!
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Response 419 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, May 28, 2002 (00:33) * 3 lines
Memorial Day 2002
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Response 420 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Thu, May 30, 2002 (17:58) * 7 lines
Hi All
Nothing new to report except to say hi.
73 de aa9il
mike
r-c-i
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Response 421 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, May 30, 2002 (20:51) * 4 lines
Thanks for checking in, Mike. You are alwayg a joy to behold ( I am picturing you with massive massive head set plugged into your boat anchor du jour and a brass key by your side and a log book open. That's the way my dad always looked so I put you in his stead.
Keep the faith. Communicate wiht an alien!
73's and 88's
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Response 422 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, May 30, 2002 (22:36) * 1 lines
and if you do talk to an alien, tell us about it in paraspring (just don't tell the FBI *laugh*)
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Response 423 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, May 31, 2002 (00:35) * 1 lines
....or the USAF...*ROTF*
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Response 424 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Fri, May 31, 2002 (05:48) * 12 lines
...talk to an alien? "Smile".
It makes me thinking some eventualities.
We are captive in a three dimensional environment. But we are creatures of 2.5 dimensions. We understand well the "length ", "width" and the "altitude". But we cannot traveling in the third dimension (which is the altitude) without mechanical help.
If they exists more than three dimensions in the universe, we are watching part of it. We can not sense something that perhaps exist in the 4th dimension even if it is very close in front of us; except if it will become in some of our dimensions or in our COSMOS. It is the only logical though that can answer in some mysteries today.
Our science is also limeted in three dimensions. We can "touch" more than three dimensions only by mathematics and logical thoughts.
We don't know yet if our electromagnetic transmissions are really travelling in more than three dimensions.
John
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Response 425 of 1049: S B Robinson (SBRobinson) * Fri, May 31, 2002 (12:00) * 1 lines
Happy Birthday Marcia! *blowing birthday kisses toward Hilo*
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Response 426 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Fri, May 31, 2002 (14:22) * 30 lines
Happy Birthday Marci!
Also, its kind of funny you mentioned the boatanchor - couple of
nights ago I was listening to 20m CW and was just goofing around
with different filter widths, BFO settings, audio response, etc.
One of the things you can do with the R390A is calibrate the main
tuning oscillator to the mechanical counter (frequency readout).
I set the BFO to zero beat, tuned to 14.000 MHz, locked the mechanical
drive and adjusted the main tuning oscillator to 14.000. Ok, big deal...
but when I released the main knob, there was no backlash of the tuning,
the radio just stayed parked right on zero beat (i.e. no beat frequency
tone indicating that something electrically or mechanically drifted).
I just had to marvel at that - a 50 + year old radio that works like
a charm. Sort of the same satisfaction as listening to a Jaguar XKE
during idle or a Hammond B3 organ with the rotating Leslie speakers.
Anyway, regarding aliens and such - If I were to speak to any aliens,
I would surely invite them over for tea!
It is interesting regarding the possible methods of hyper parsec travel
which goes with the concept of warped spacetime, worm holes, etc to cover
vast distances. Most likely, hyper dimensional space travel is the only
way to get from point A to point B. These higher dimensional portals
could exist all around us - just need to be able to work in the higher
dimension to utilize or observe.
anyway, blah..blah..blah
73 de AA9IL
Mike
r-c-i
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Response 427 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, May 31, 2002 (14:40) * 4 lines
We're lookin' for you on echolink Mike!
See http://repeater.org for details.
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Response 428 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Fri, May 31, 2002 (15:23) * 8 lines
Hi Terry
I had a chance to listen in during my last very brief trip through
Austin - need to get the software downloaded and interface then
should be good to go!
Mike
AA9IL
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Response 429 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, May 31, 2002 (16:00) * 1 lines
You'll love it, it's been a total transformation of our repeater.
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Response 430 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Fri, May 31, 2002 (20:17) * 1 lines
the AF will blow you off and then send a team of investigators out *laugh*
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Response 431 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun 3, 2002 (01:46) * 1 lines
~*~*~*~Happy Birthday, Viky~*~*~*~
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Response 432 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Mon, Jun 3, 2002 (08:52) * 9 lines
Hello Everybody, I have been back from my trip for some time but haven't been
back on Geo. So here I am.
Marcia & John thanks for your concern about my welfare here in Karachi. Your
messages have been very comforting. Yes, it's getting quite hot here and the
latest headline is that in case of nuclear attack there will be total
destruction for fifteen miles. I hope and pray that mankind will not go that
crazy.-- Sikander
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Response 433 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jun 3, 2002 (09:58) * 1 lines
What is the word on the street in Karachi about the liklihood of war? Of nuclear war? You are definitely square in the middle of the planet's hot sport right now.
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Response 434 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Mon, Jun 3, 2002 (18:13) * 1 lines
so good to see you again, maharaja!! *HUGS*
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Response 435 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun 3, 2002 (18:49) * 1 lines
We are all praying for you, Sikander! No matter what one calls his supreme being, it is the one who is being invoked for your safety from all parts of the globe. I suggest that this nuclear possibility will end in no winners and the whole world will be affected. I am certain there are some serious negotiations going on of which the media are unaware. Good! Such things are best done away from the scrutiny of public opinion.
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Response 436 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun 3, 2002 (18:51) * 2 lines
Welcome back, Sikander. I forgot my manners in my joy at seeing your post.
My warmest Hugs of Aloha are also with you. Be safe!
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Response 437 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Tue, Jun 4, 2002 (10:49) * 18 lines
Nice to be back.
Thanks Marcia, Terry, & Wolfie. It's very comforting to have you all
as friends.
Terry, news in the streets of Karachi is mixed. Some think that it's nothing
but political drama, some think war is imminent but will not go nuclear,
some, like myself, think it's time we became Houdini's students. Life is
going on normally but there seems to be obvious question mark on the faces
of the elderly. There are also those who have relatives on the other side
and are the most concerned.
Today they showed an interesting documentary on the Discovery channel.
Well preserved mummies in the Xinjiang province of China. If I heard it
correctly they called them Churchin Mummies. These are mummies of European
people. The oldest one is of a lady called the Lulan Beauty and is about
4000 years old.
Live & Learn.
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Response 438 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jun 4, 2002 (12:49) * 1 lines
I heard Musharraf and the Indian PM are having an icy staredown at the conference table. Why can't Kashmire just be it's own state with self determination, the problem seems to be the presence of India and Pakistan in what should be a sovereign nation, am I right?
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Response 439 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Tue, Jun 4, 2002 (17:48) * 6 lines
Yes Terry that's the basic right of the Kashmiri people. I believe that is
what Pakistan too has always asked for, well at least that's what we have
always been led to believe and that's what the majority of the Pakistani
people believe. Gen.Musharraf and Mr.Vajpayee really had an icy
staredown, but I think Musharraf won the stare. "laugh". I like the bold
steps he has taken. None of his predecessors would go even half the way.
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Response 440 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jun 5, 2002 (01:04) * 5 lines
Sikander, you get the Discovery Channel also?! I too watched that lady of Xinjiang. Sharing the same interesting television documentaries makes you see so much closer. Please watch for programs about Hawaii. They have them frequently. I like the thought of sharing things!
Intersting insights about the perilous times you are erxperiencing. Your General Musharraf has the mandate of the people. Now I can see why. Dangerous times require resolute and wise men. May this be true now. I do wish you were watching from a far greater distance than you are now!
Be safe, Sikander. You are part of our family now!
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Response 441 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Wed, Jun 5, 2002 (07:22) * 14 lines
What a surprise Marcia that you too were watching the same program. I was
simply fascinated by it. Especially, about how well they are preserved. I
think if someone from their time saw any of these mummies, they would actually
recognize the person.
I had seen mummies at the Cairo Museum and the British Museum but to me they
didn't seem to be recognizable. These are!
I do admire Gen.Musharraf but I didn't like his stunt about the referendum.
Actually, his popularity went down a little due to it. Personally, I think
Mr. Vajpayee is afraid to enter into a dialogue with him.
Your comforting assurances have helped a lot. I do feel safe and I feel
proud of being part of the family.
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Response 442 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jun 5, 2002 (15:41) * 5 lines
*HUGS*
Remember that our leaders are politicians and sometimes their mouths go faster than the brains supposedly controlling them. A loosened tongue has caused more than one leader difficulties. A good man will recover, put it behind him adn move on promising himself not to do it again. Check out our former President Clinton if you think Pakistan is alone in this difficulty.
For those who may care but wonder what to do, John and I are in contact with our esteemed Sikander via email for more lengthy discussions of comfort and just to keep in contact. This is very important, now. They know it is the greatest reason for my taking the laptop computer with me.
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Response 443 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Jun 5, 2002 (19:34) * 1 lines
you guys, the discovery channel is my favorite and i love all the shows on ancient egypt and mummies (world-wide mummies)
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Response 444 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Thu, Jun 6, 2002 (09:13) * 3 lines
Hi Wolf
Did you see the feature on the mummies of Xinjiang Province in NW China?
I think it was fantastic.
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Response 445 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, Jun 6, 2002 (18:42) * 1 lines
i believe i did but not recently--they had a mummy show last year too
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Response 446 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Thu, Jun 6, 2002 (20:04) * 5 lines
Marcia flatters me. Imagine "esteemed Sikander". But so nice of her to take
her laptop with her to keep in touch. Have a nice time Marcia.
John did you receive my last email. If not, then thanks again for the useful
info you have given. All you Geo guys are so knowledgeable. I am learning
a lot.
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Response 447 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Thu, Jun 6, 2002 (20:05) * 2 lines
Forgot to include a querry in my last posting. Why doesn't Topic 50 appear
in the main menu?
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Response 448 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Thu, Jun 6, 2002 (20:08) * 1 lines
Sorry, I meant the "Welcome to Geo" page, not the main menu.
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Response 449 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, Jun 6, 2002 (21:56) * 3 lines
it doesn't show up when you check all conferences on the welcome to geo page?
marcia, i miss you already!!!!
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Response 450 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Jun 7, 2002 (16:31) * 6 lines
I'm here, world! Sikander, if you use http://spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/Geo/all/new
all conferences with posts you have not read yet will show up. That is where I log into Spring and into Geo. If it does not even show up on http://spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/Geo/all/ it may mean you have inadventantly hit the "forget" button so you must find the "remember" one to cure that. Let me know if it works.
Yes, My Dear. You are greatly esteemed by John and me and the rest of us who have come to know and to value you.
I was missing so long because David was setting a wireless network so I can talk to you even from outside under a tree using his modem while he uses it for other things. HUGS all. It is HOT here but I am happy to be on a continent again!
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Response 451 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Fri, Jun 7, 2002 (17:45) * 6 lines
Thanks Marcia I will try the way you have explained and let you know.
Attaboy to David for setting up wireless network for you. Enjoy your stay
on the continent.
John could you please confirm your email address, perhaps I entered it
wrongly in the my last email to you.
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Response 452 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Jun 7, 2002 (22:38) * 3 lines
John's email is tsatsaragosj@yahoo.com.
Save your congratulations until David gets my instant messengers working online. As it currently stands, I can use MSN but no one uses it except for Wolfie. Actually, I do not know what the difficulty is. Despite his tweaking and rebooting all day only the internet and email works.
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Response 453 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Sat, Jun 8, 2002 (02:56) * 11 lines
Wireless network! What high technology services you have Marcia! You must be proud for David. I like the idea to work under a tree or in the summerhouse. Your son is perfect again. He cares for your comfort.
I will try helping you Marcia!
If Internet and e-mail are working successfully, the problem is not exists in the wireless (or not) connection. Probably depends on security settings of your browser or on security settings of some protection programs that are perhaps used. I suggest you disable any security program and adjust your browser to a lower protection level.
Perhaps this is the solution.
From the other hand you have to drink more liquids against hot weather.
Enjoy your family and the continent part of your country.
John
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Response 454 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Sat, Jun 8, 2002 (20:09) * 2 lines
Yeah Marcia, John's idea is good. Now's the time to take cold mint tea.
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Response 455 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Sun, Jun 9, 2002 (08:37) * 2 lines
Things are cooling down a bit here. Thanks to all of you for your prayers.
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Response 456 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun 9, 2002 (10:01) * 5 lines
Yesterday, in a blistering hot car park, I would have been delighted to have joined you in that mint tea. As it was I drank a LOT of water, instead. I am not relenting on my prayers for your safety and for peace. I hope it is so easily defused, but I think it is not.
Sikander, we passed by some jasmine bushes (or what passes for them in California) and I thought of you! Do you drink your mint tea hot even in such high temperatures? Last night I wanted something HOT!!!
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Response 457 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Sun, Jun 9, 2002 (12:33) * 5 lines
It is hot also here. But exists a spectacular ravine only a few minutes from my house. It has many sycamore tower trees. A small river is drive through it with enough noise. A simple restaurant-cafe is there. But it has many and big tanks where they breed trout. It is an oasis there because the temperature is almost 6-8 degrees lower.
You need something hot easily there. You need also a jacket.
John
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Response 458 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun 9, 2002 (14:20) * 1 lines
David has many jackets which we all wore last night. We are cool inside houses and cars and stores. We will go into the mountains tomorrow. I hope. I am also downloading Yahoo IM on Iris's old computer so if you see me please contact me and I will use her old keyboard to answer. Not all of the keys work so please try to understand what I am saying.
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Response 459 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Sun, Jun 9, 2002 (20:21) * 3 lines
oh have fun in those mountains marcia and be careful!! take lots of digitals for us!
i love mint julep tea but i've never tasted it hot! sadly, no one around these parts knows what i'm talking about--guess i'll have to start brewing it myself!
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Response 460 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun 10, 2002 (08:39) * 3 lines
When I get back East I'll check into the Mint Julep tea. It better not have bourbon in it or I'm not gonna drink it... tell us more!
Off to Shasta!!!
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Response 461 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jun 10, 2002 (10:55) * 1 lines
Shasta as in Northern Calif?
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Response 462 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Mon, Jun 10, 2002 (17:58) * 3 lines
YES!!!!
no bourbon for me either...i guess i meant to call it just mint tea because the only mint julep version i can find has the liquer in it.
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Response 463 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Mon, Jun 10, 2002 (18:35) * 2 lines
Yes, I have mint tea in hot weather too because if the tea is kept in the refrigerator it has the totally opposite effect. It has cooling and soothing
effect. Good for digestion too.
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Response 464 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun 10, 2002 (18:49) * 3 lines
It is true that body temperature liquids are immediately usable by your body whereas you have to warm cold liquids before they can be used which uses calories and makes you even warmer. Sikander is correct.
I am back from seeing 4 volcanoes, three of which are the Cascades - and in the far distance, the Sierras with snow on them. I collected some lovely pumice *;)
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Response 465 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Mon, Jun 10, 2002 (21:33) * 16 lines
Hi all
Back again - been a nutz of a week but a couple of interesting things
to report - saw an iridium flare during the June vhf contest last weekend
but the cool visual was what I think was the contrail from the shuttle
launch. While flying back from Miami, thirty minutes into the flight and
starboard to the plane, I saw what looked like a distinct vapor column
- this was some minutes old (?) and was already spreading from wind
shear currents. Different from any of the surrounding clouds (including
storm clouds). No final verification but neat none the less. Anyway,
happy soon to be summer!
73 de aa9il
mike
r-c-i
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Response 466 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Tue, Jun 11, 2002 (12:53) * 3 lines
I wonder what is the radioactivity background near a volcano. I really don’t know. Is there some danger from possible radioactive materials? Do you know some easy and quick and not expensive test for it? I think that I know one.
John
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Response 467 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Tue, Jun 11, 2002 (13:39) * 5 lines
I remember that I was collecting samples of stones in quarries near Volos when I was in high school. I remember also my attempts to analyze those samples in my room. It looks very funny today. I wanted to make the experiments of my school chemistry book in my room. I had also some explosions..."laugh".
I got out alive finally.
john
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Response 468 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Tue, Jun 11, 2002 (15:35) * 13 lines
Greetings John and all
I would suspect that detecting radioactive characteristics of volcanoes
would be performed using similar equipment to 'down hole' sensors used
by the oil companies - these are tube like enclosures containing data logging
and sensors that is fed down the drilling hole - telemetry/data is sent
back up via cabling. Due to the extreme environment, I suspect volcanic
sensing equipment is packaged in a most robust housing.
73 de Mike
AA9IL
r-c-i
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Response 469 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Jun 11, 2002 (21:44) * 5 lines
I just asked David and he suggested I look it up. I shall when I get a moment. He is not sure of the state of the science, but he did spend a lot of time monitoring radon gas emissions from Kilauea for just such eruption predicting - or relevance thereto. Mike's suggestions are also a strong possibility. Interesting thoughts. I'll be checking when I get a few minutes.
David is loading satellite viewing information into his palm computer so we have our evening entertainment ready. Congratulations, Mike for catching the iridium flare. Impressive, aren't they! Subscribe to SeeSat and you will havde more information than you know what to do with. I'm jealous of your shuttle launch contrail. I'd definitely add it to my list of seen astronimical phenomena!
Clear skies and warm nights, all. I'm off to study the heavens!
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Response 470 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Wed, Jun 12, 2002 (12:56) * 13 lines
Hi Marci and geoites
Clear skies and warm nights sounds good - its misty and cooler (!) here.
Kind of makes me feel like I live further up north than I really do.
Re satellites, I sometimes run InstantTrak to get position info. On clear
nights here when the ambient light pollution is not too bad, you can sometimes
see N to S and S to N satellite traversals. Look forward to hearing more
about the volcanic sensors.
73 de AA9IL
Mike
r-c-i
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Response 471 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Thu, Jun 13, 2002 (17:34) * 2 lines
Forgive my ignorance Marcia, but is SeeSat a website?
Enjoy your study of the heavens.
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Response 472 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Thu, Jun 13, 2002 (17:39) * 1 lines
This refers back a few posts. Marcia and Wolfie I had some wonderful hot mint tea in a North African (as in cusine, not location) restaurant about 6 weeks ago. We got the whole pot and had to pour it through a strainer into little cups.
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Response 473 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, Jun 13, 2002 (18:44) * 1 lines
i love drinking herbal tea that way--my opa (german grandfather) grew his own herbs and we had it as tea--very good stuff.
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Response 474 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Fri, Jun 14, 2002 (07:51) * 5 lines
Hi Everybody!
Sorry about the bad news from Karachi. Just as I was beginning to feel
that things were getting better. I thought I should let you all know that
I am in good health. I know you all care.
Please pray that common sense and concern for humanity may prevail. Thanks
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Response 475 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Jun 14, 2002 (14:09) * 10 lines
No, Sikander, we use Heavens Above to find out what we are seeing. SeeSat is a message board for professional astronomers world wide and others intersted. I have occasionally posted there, as well.
SeeSat
http://satobs.org/seesat/seesatindex.html
Heavens Above
http://www.heavens-above.com/
My my profpimd sorrow for what is happening in Karachi. I have been out of the news loop since We have been immersed in computer rebuilding and netowrking.
Hugs, Sikander. I will catch up on my email to you!
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Response 476 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Fri, Jun 14, 2002 (17:45) * 5 lines
Thanks for your comforting words Marcia. I had guessed that you were busy
with the networking. Take it easy and enjoy your stay in California.
I discovered yesterday that the highest telescope on earth is also in Hawaii.
I have forgotten the name of the place. Thanks for the website addresses and
the hugs. Look after yourself Marcia.
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Response 477 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Jun 15, 2002 (11:15) * 3 lines
The networking works splendidly. Any one of four computers can use the print command on the computer and have it print out in the office where the main computer lives. And, we can download programs from one another's hard drive. I find that rather amazing and VERY time-saving. Next I have to get closer to the east coast (flying again and more security checks)and set up a network there. I hope I was a good student. This time I am the computer "expert" so I have all components needed. I highly recommend doing this. Your children and youcan all be online at the same time all doing separate things and no one can see that the other is doing. And, only one telephone line is occupied!
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Response 478 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun 17, 2002 (16:53) * 5 lines
My laptop PC died last night so I am without a computer for the week. I will also be travelling tomorrow so wish me luck. The dead latop is remaining in the care of my son who will install a new one, format it and load the programs we use then send it to me ASAP. With new memory and a bigger new hard drive, it should be awesome. If not, I'm giving up on it.
Also plan to set up a network at my destination so I can be online and use the isp where I will be instead of bothering anyone with my difficulties. Take care of Geo for me. I will check in on Thursday on my host's computer just to see that everything is working right.
Thanks! and *HUGS* I had no idea how confusing life can be when the computer isn't working right!
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Response 479 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Tue, Jun 18, 2002 (20:04) * 8 lines
Hi Marci
Hope you have a fun and safe trip and get back on the inet when
you can. Hopy you also have a fun solstice!
73 de Mike
aa9il
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Response 480 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jun 19, 2002 (07:06) * 1 lines
We'll see you Thursday night then! Sounds like the laptop will be worth waiting for with the upgrade. Travel safe!
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Response 481 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (13:20) * 4 lines
Thanks for the good wishes. It must have worked since after getting though being chosen far more frequently than necessary for secuity body searches and complete undoing of my carry one things, I managed to get a great seatmate out o
Dallas-Fort Worth - a HAM aand a hardware troubleshooter for computers! We had a great trip trading war stories!
Still waiting for my laptop while my son tries to find time to fix it. Tomorrow we are off to a symposium where my host will present a paper on Melungeons and on the way I will get to see really neat rocks and stuff like that. I am really excitied ! But, is it ever hot here. What happened to the tradwinds?
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Response 482 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (15:39) * 4 lines
You are charging your batteries Marcia. I have the impression that you are like drinking a warm pleasurable teacup. Close your eyes to difficulties and Enjoy it. Cosmos is marvelous if we want to see it from the correct side, as you make usually.
John
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Response 483 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (18:01) * 3 lines
Hi Marcia! I've missed your frequent postings at Spring. Enjoy the symposium tomorrow. Maybe you'll post some interesting new items at the Mulungeon conference. Don't forget to mention the neat rocks that you'll be seeing on the way here at Geo.
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Response 484 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Thu, Jun 20, 2002 (18:04) * 3 lines
Happy Summer Soltace! Okay, I'm early. It's actually tomorrow.
Happy Winter Soltace to those in the southern hemisphere, Anne and Rob! I hope that the snow has abated for you, Rob.
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Response 485 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Fri, Jun 21, 2002 (01:24) * 3 lines
Happy Solstice!
Bang a Gong!
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Response 486 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Fri, Jun 21, 2002 (06:00) * 6 lines
Earth's Instantaneous Velocity (on its path around the Sun) will be at the minimum value tomorrow. I am talking about 28 Km/sec. Then, Earth will start to accelerate again. Be ready tight your belt and stop smoking. We will go closer to the Sun!
Happy Solstice to all!
John
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Response 487 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jun 21, 2002 (06:44) * 1 lines
Enjoy your solstice!
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Response 488 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jun 24, 2002 (14:37) * 8 lines
Wow! I missed the Solstice while attending an conference ("Union") in the Hills of Tennessee. Bet something had to be right. That evening, after my host and future Geo's archaeologist gave his paper (he drove me there through the most spectacular scenery I have ever seen - and most amazing geological structures in the foothills of the Applachians.
Saturday night we heard there was a little old place down a tiny valley ("holler") so off we went. A big "rustic" wood and corrugated sheet iron structure seated about 1000 while the rest of us sat outside with the moon and fireflies. We listened to the purest of country music and bluegrass and NOTHING was plugged into the electricity!!! I was overjoyed. Anthropology in actuality. Then a few guys from down the road dropped in and we were treated to a long session with Johnny and June Carter Cash. We were all surprised and delighted. During the course of the evening no matter who was doing the music folks would just get up and start dancing. Clog and buck dancing, mostly. It was fantasic and I would love to go back for more!
Look up The Carter Family Fold in Hiltons if you want to know more about it.
My host for the duration is a fascinating man whose conversations go on for hours into the night. I could not have chosen a better travelling companion for this journey into Americana.
(They were amazed that I was from Hawaii - they looked like I had told them I was from another planet!)
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Response 489 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Wed, Jun 26, 2002 (14:19) * 8 lines
"Flooded" with an infrequent genus of butterfly Eastern Thessaloniki and enough regions of Central Macedonia in Greece.
It is a hazard only to green fallow that is expected from the thousands butterflies according to scientists. They maintain that their overpopulation, is owed in the climatic conditions that prevailed the spring and encouraged their procreation.
John
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Response 490 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jun 26, 2002 (14:32) * 6 lines
How incredibly lovely! I can think of much worse plagues than too many butterflies! Tent caterpillers and Gypsy moths were unusually bad this year in my current location. Happily they had run their course before I got here, but my seat mate flying in told me of buring them out of his trees to save the trees from certain death by doing so.
The Falls of the Ohio location is http://www.fallsoftheohio.org/center.html
I do want to see the fossil beds. Then I want to go see some fossils I can collect.
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Response 491 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Wed, Jun 26, 2002 (17:59) * 4 lines
Warmest Aloha Marcia. I saw the photo album of the Falls of Ohio you have attached. They are beautiful but to you it must be like paradise. By the way, where areyou these days? Did you get the picture of tooth I finally succeeded
in getting properly scanned. I tried to paste it in this space too, but it
seems that this space only accepts text.
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Response 492 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Jun 27, 2002 (13:58) * 7 lines
Aloha and Big Hugs, Sikander!!! I thought sure I had lost you! I did not get your tooth since I cannot get my home email here (until I get my own laptop and have it forwarded.) I am delighted that you were able to scan something so we could all see it. I am in the southeastern USA in Kentucky and Tennessee. This part of the US has small farmers and poor but proud people who are self sufficient and ask no one for help. I guess they are closer to what made America great than any other citizens. However, for the benefit of their children, it might be better to have better schooling and health. However, they are tending tobe stubborn and to cling to the old ways, so they continue to do things they way their ancestors did them. Some do have electricity and many have little TV antennas but many more still do not have indoor plumbing. It is interesting but something inside me recoils at this primitive lifestyle. Books are great things. There can be more to life than grinding poverty in this country of g
eat wealth. *Sigh* It is difficult, but no one can make another live differently if they do not chooe to do so. A,d. I never want to eat HOMINY again!!!
The Falls of Ohio is a state park so I cannot pick up rocks there. I will enjoy learning of what fossils are there, however. Then, I have been promised a fossil expidition by a collector who says he knows nothing about them, but knows their precise classifications right down to genus and species! Sikander, I will think of you each time I find anythng. By the way, I did write to your email address on record here - did you see it? I have lost your and everyone else's email addresses when my hard drive broke. I am currently
BluegrassHula@aol.com. I'd love to hear from you!
You too, John!
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Response 493 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Jun 27, 2002 (14:00) * 1 lines
What I really need is a field guide to the geology of this area. There are bound to be books available at the state park if not elsewhere.
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Response 494 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Thu, Jun 27, 2002 (17:22) * 14 lines
Hi Marci
Glad I checked this page - I still can not get past topic 32 when displaying
Geo on my laptop - ????? dunno
Anyway, sounds like you are having fun in rock country. Also, got your new
email address - I sent you a couple of emails to aloha.net but now figure
you wont see those until you get your replacement pc.
Nothing new to report here - just packaging up some microwave stuff for the
August contest.
73 de Mike
AA9IL
r-c-i
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Response 495 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Fri, Jun 28, 2002 (02:51) * 11 lines
Hi Mike
I have the same problem when displaying Geo/All. Something is wrong. I e-mailed Terry before yesterday and also today about this problem.
I posted a test answer to your topic 35. So, your topic is visible if you select Activity within last week. The topics 33, 39, 60, 61, 62, 63, and 75 are not accessible for the moment. You can access each one of the other topics using:
http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/read/Geo/32
replace the number 32 with the number of the topic you want to access).
Best Regards
John
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Response 496 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Fri, Jun 28, 2002 (02:56) * 6 lines
Hi Sikander
How are the things there now? I hope that you are OK. I can post in Geo any picture you may want to share with us. Simply send it to me by e-mail.
Warm regards from Greece
John
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Response 497 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Fri, Jun 28, 2002 (02:58) * 4 lines
Surely, those people are more unadulterated Marcia. We must remember our past years when we were like those proud people. They are self-sufficient and this is very good. I wonder if they are in advantageous position against the most of us. They are more HUMANS!
John
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Response 498 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Fri, Jun 28, 2002 (09:41) * 13 lines
Marcia,I had a feeling that there was some problem with your communication tool.
I have been sending you ecards every day and have not been receiving
any response. Will you be able to see all those cards when you get back to
your laptop? I have sent you an email too and have attached the mysterious
tooth. I will try to send it to John as he has so kindly offered to paste
it on Geo. Thanks John.
Marcia, you have got me all excited about Kentucky and Tennessee. People
living in the mountains I visit also live in this type of simplicity. It
does have its charms of contentment. However, the lack of education for their
children is a sad aspect. This has been one of my ideas that PACC (the place
where I work) should open centers in small towns close to such small farms
here in Pakistan, but it seems that my ideas fall on deaf ears.
Once again, nice to hear from you Marcia. I feel good now.
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Response 499 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Sat, Jun 29, 2002 (21:08) * 8 lines
This is a fossilized tooth. The color is a shade darker than it appears in
in picture. It was found in this broken state near the Khir Thar mountain
range approximately 5 miles east of the Khir-Thar National Park.
The size of the broken tooth is slightly over 1 inch and the girth of the bottom edge is about one inch and one-half of an inch. It seems very similar
to what I had seen on the Discovery channel as a dinosaur's tooth.
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Response 500 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Sat, Jun 29, 2002 (21:09) * 2 lines
John, thanks for helping me post this onto Geo50.
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Response 501 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Sun, Jun 30, 2002 (02:46) * 6 lines
I am sorry for the colors Sikander.
I found that your photo is clearer by this way. It is very interesting finding. I don’t know almost anything about Paleontology. I wonder if it is small in order to appertain to a Dinosaur.
John
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Response 502 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Sun, Jun 30, 2002 (18:18) * 6 lines
Yes John, the photo is much clearer this way. You see it is broken and
in view of the girth I suppose the entire tooth should be bigger. Perhaps
is belongs to a baby dinosaur i.e. if baby dinosaurs used to have teeth.
It is much larger to be of the two other large animals of the area i.e.
camels and buffalos.
Once again John, thanks for your help.
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Response 503 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Mon, Jul 1, 2002 (08:37) * 6 lines
John, there seem to be a lot of earthquakes going on these days. Is my area
safe?
By the way I did a little checking. There were a lot of little dinosaurs
too and the front teeth of the Tyrannosaurus were also much smaller than
its canines.
Best Wishes
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Response 504 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Mon, Jul 1, 2002 (18:41) * 1 lines
your tooth is strange to behold. how'd you know it was one?
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Response 505 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Tue, Jul 2, 2002 (06:50) * 13 lines
Hello friend Sikander and all geo-family.
It appears that Earth is enough anxious these days. I received five world signals during eighteen days. The last one was yesterday. You can see them in topic 67. A last 40-days summarise of my signals is appeared on the graph of my last world signals in Geo portal:WORLD SIGNALS. (They are updated every day).
Unfortunately I can't determine the source position of anyone of them. I will know if someone of them is near to me (Greece and part of the surrounding area), only a few days before the EQ. It will become clear by the 24-hour oscillation period signals.
I hope and pray for gentle events away from human.
I am not so familiar with the history of life on Earth. But it is a mysterious the sudden disappearance of dinosaurs from the face of Earth the moment that they were the prevalent genus on it. Possibly, the reason was a natural catastrophe. I wonder if a similar reason can destroy also the human genus in the future.
Be safe all of you.
John
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Response 506 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Tue, Jul 2, 2002 (08:27) * 3 lines
Hi Wolfie.
Yes it does seem strange by looks because it is broken. If you look at the
real thing it is nothing other than a tooth of some kind.
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Response 507 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Tue, Jul 2, 2002 (08:33) * 3 lines
John I looked at the "World Signals". The signals for Russia-China border
were very strong in the last week of June. I would say Amen to your prayers
for safety. You too look after yourself.
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Response 508 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 3, 2002 (17:06) * 7 lines
Congratulations, Sikander! And thanks to John for assisting you with the Html code for posting your tooth. I am sending it on to those I know who are wiser than I am with Paleontology. This is a strange tooth for a dinosaur. Most that I have seen are pointy and conical in shape. Mammoth and Mastodon teeth are great monstrous grinding molars which are two hands full in size. You assuredly have a tooth or some remnant of animal life past. Exactly what is the puzzle. Let me check with a few sources!
Thanks and again, congratulations!
Broken??? Of course!!! That is the part of the conical structure missing! I studied the dinosaur fossils on exhibit in the Falls of Ohio Museum and the greatest of them had small incisors. The Canines did the killing while the molars did the grinding. Just thinking of this broken tooth with the core exposed makes mine hurt with sympathy!
Back to checking with someone far better versed in these things than I am.
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Response 509 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, Jul 4, 2002 (13:16) * 1 lines
someone send me good ftp software! i can't believe this brand new computer doesn't have it already installed (if it does, i still can't find it anywhere)*SIGH*
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Response 510 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jul 4, 2002 (14:09) * 4 lines
The best ftp software is here:
http://cws.internet.com/ftp.html
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Response 511 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Thu, Jul 4, 2002 (15:47) * 12 lines
Large-scale police operation uncovers ''Nov. 17'' hideout in Athens
03/07/2002 23:31:05
Police launched a large-scale operation on Wednesday, locating a ''November 17'' terrorist organisation hideout in the Athens Patisia neighborhood, discovering weapons, rockets of all types, printed material and a computer.
Among the arms were military rockets of several types and firearms, while tests will be conducted on the computer to assess whether it was the one used to write the shadowy murderous terrorist organization's latest proclamations.
Initially, police evacuated the apartment complex and then entered the basement apartment, where the weaponry was discovered, with police bomb disposal experts entering first in the event that the apartment was booby-trapped.
http://zeus.hri.org/news/greek/apeen/2002/02-07-04.apeen.html#03
John
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Response 512 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Thu, Jul 4, 2002 (18:50) * 10 lines
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY TO ALL MY AMERICAN FRIENDS.
May the Bells of Freedom ring for all the thirsty freedom seekers in the
world.
Marcia, thanks for doing research on the mysterious tooth. Looking at
the real thing does make one think that it must have been conical. And, of
course, thanks again to John for helping me out.
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Response 513 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jul 4, 2002 (20:15) * 3 lines
Thanks for the good wishes, Sikander.
Time to go and shoot off some fireworks!
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Response 514 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Jul 5, 2002 (23:21) * 5 lines
Thanks all for fond wishes for America's Birthday. Sikander, I thought of you while spending the day hunting for fossils. I will photograph them and as soon as my fully repaired computer gets here early next week, I will ftp them to Geo and post them. Tomorrow we go back out again looking for more gravel bars in the nearby streams to hunt for more fossils. This is far too easy. They are just about where you can fall over them as you walk!
Terry, toured the Court where you once lived. LOVELY!!! Yes, they still have Shakespeare in the park nearby!
John, you are very dear to me for keeping Geo running smoothly. I will be back at work shortly and back on Yahoo too =) I can hardly wait !!!
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Response 515 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Jul 6, 2002 (03:52) * 1 lines
That's great that you stopped by there, do they still have the fountain in the middle of the median on St. James Court? The house where I lived was right by that fountain. Ah, memories.
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Response 516 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Sun, Jul 7, 2002 (22:49) * 13 lines
Hi all
Nice to be able to post here again. Marci, how is the tour going?
Just got back from a whirl wind tour of Tx (missed the flooding...)
Back up in the north country finally. Waiting for my weather balloons
to come in - bought two surplus 6 to 8 ft balloons for experimenting
with launching amateur payloads (radio, gps, camera, etc...). Also
just picked up the microcontroller for controlling the mess.
73 de aa9il
mike in IL
r-c-i
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Response 517 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 8, 2002 (10:41) * 1 lines
That sounds like great fun, launching ballons with transmitters. Are you going to keep them on some kind of tether or will they just float away?
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Response 518 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Mon, Jul 8, 2002 (14:37) * 8 lines
Hi Terry
These will be free flying balloons - hence all the gps/radio gear to track
it. Dont plan to really do anything until next year tho as far as launching
with a real payload.
Mike
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Response 519 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jul 8, 2002 (19:28) * 1 lines
Terry, have y'all been affected by the flooding? Yup, the fountain is in the middle of the grassy strip of lovely landscaping running the length of St James Court. The homes are NOT your usual town houses. These have large crystal chandeliers inside and pillars out front. Your house was on the left or right going in? I'd love to photoggraph it for you and post it. It is not far from where I am. We are close to the U of Louisville campus. Beautiful!
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Response 520 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jul 8, 2002 (19:31) * 1 lines
Mike! You are flying baloons now? Excellent on the GPS. I am currently the only one in my family without one. I think that needs to be my next purchase since I did not need to buy a whole new laptop. Besides, I can navigate around the Appalachians better and find my sources of specimens far better if I have one such modest instrument. They can be had for $100 online.
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Response 521 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 8, 2002 (21:13) * 4 lines
Not nearly as much flooding here as there has been down South in San Antonio. My house was to the left going in, the Salyers owned it I believe. If you take shots, shoot several and I'll pick it out!
Great story on NPR tonight about how some folks are starting a project to photograph every major latitude and longitude intersection (except those in the ocenans), I'll look for it on NPR's site.
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Response 522 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Mon, Jul 8, 2002 (21:35) * 19 lines
Hi all
I missed all the excitement by the time I passed thru Austin last week although
the news showed the flood waters rising. When I got to the home qth west
of Houston, it was clear except for plenty of mosquitos.
Marci - this is a secret background project I have had some interest in for
a long time. When I was shopping at a surplus electronics store in Houston,
I was only going to buy a microcontroller board - imagine my suprise when I
found a stack of 6ft diameter surplus weather balloons still in the box.
These will be slated strictly for proof of concept testing of designs although
the long term goal is for high altitude. I plan to hang the usual meteorlogical
sensors but also plan to maybe do something like carry a vlf/elf receiver aloft
to record whistlers from 50000 ft or something like that. Anyway, will have
some real data to post to the Geo board then.
73 de Mike
AA9IL
r-c-i
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Response 523 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Tue, Jul 9, 2002 (11:54) * 1 lines
terry, how does that work? how do they know where the intersects are? will gps tell them?
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Response 524 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 9, 2002 (12:33) * 24 lines
I just googled and found out more.
+ Searching With Latitude
Ever wondered what the scene looks like at 47ºN latitude, 21ºE longitude? Or 42ºS 147ºE? Searching by geographic location, especially for areas in our examples (near Transylvania and Tasmania, respectively) isn't something you'll want to try with most search engines. But if you're just dying to get a look at 37ºN 109ºW (near the four corners monument in Colorado), The Degree Confluence Project is your search resource of choice.
The goal of the project is to visit each of the latitude and longitude integer degree intersections (confluences) in the world, and to take pictures at each location. There are 64,442 latitude and longitude degree intersections in the world (counting each pole as one intersection). Of these, 47,650 meet the goals of the project after removing many confluences near the poles. Of these, about 12,000 are actually on land, which the project either has or plans to catalog in its database.
The project welcomes submissions -- if you live near a confluence, or plan to travel near one, consider submitting your own photograph and story to the project.
The Degree Confluence Project
http://www.confluence.org/index.php
Getty Thesaurus of Geographic Names
http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabulary/tgn/index.html
Enter the name of a geographic place and your results will include latitude and longitude information.
Host Name to Latitude/Longitude
http://cello.cs.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/slamm/ip2ll/
This utility searches the Whois database for the location of web hosts or IP addresses. US sites are resolved to the city; Canadian sites are resolved to their province, and non-US sites are resolved to the country's capital.
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Response 525 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 9, 2002 (12:36) * 8 lines
Here's one close to home, well, my home anyway.
visited by Craig Davidson)
17-Sep-2000 -- After a weekend of partying in Austin, Texas it was time to head home to Houston. The 30N 98w Confluence is just a few miles south of Austin so I just had to go take a look. It's located on the Blanco River between Wimberley and San Marcos Texas. Both towns are recreational and retirement communities for nearby Austin and San Antonio. The Texas hill country is a beautiful place to live. We will have to mark this one up as another attempted confluence because I was unable to get within 2 miles of the spot. The H-O Ranch is on the north side of the confluence with a locked gate and the Freeman Ranch is to the south of the confluence. The Freeman Ranch gate was open but I was concerned that someone would lock the gate behind me so I didn't go in today. I noticed that the Freeman Ranch is owned by Southwest Texas State University so I would think it would be easy to get permission to enter the property on another day. I will be back.
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Response 526 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Jul 9, 2002 (14:03) * 5 lines
Amazing stuff here! Terry, I'll take several shots of St James Court for your pleasure and deja vu. The carriage trade must have had their enclave there because it is still regal and lovely inside the gates. When did you live there?
Interesting about the intersections. I'll be taking some photos of such when I am in California using my son's GPS.
Mike, your secret is safe with us. How amazing this might prove to be. I like the way you think!!! keep us posted, and I hope the wx keeps your balloons still aloft on course. Transponders are a wonderful thing!
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Response 527 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 9, 2002 (14:11) * 1 lines
I lived there from 1969 to 1971. I was a freelance photojournalist for the Louisville Courier Journal and Times and a City Planner.
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Response 528 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Jul 9, 2002 (14:27) * 1 lines
Oh, how interesting!! (Somebody actually planned this city?! Sorry, I couldn't resist!) I'll be taking photos next time we go out. Don, my host, is also interested. He was gracious enough to post on Geo 17 (archaeology, of course!) He will be an excellent addition to our Geo family and is eager to join in discussions or to answer questions.
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Response 529 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Tue, Jul 9, 2002 (15:58) * 16 lines
Hi all
One of the things that the vhf and up amateur group uses for contest scores
is based on maidenhead grid squares. Thus, when you make a microwave contact
in one grid square then move to the next, it counts for another point. I'll
have to pull out the map and see if there are any major lat/lon convergence
points near by.
Also, re the balloon project - I would suspect that there should be some
interesting observations 75000 ft up. There is a good web page for Edge
Of Space Sciences www.eoss.org which goes into quite a bit of detail of
amateur launched balloons and payloads.
73 de Mike
aa9il
r-c-i
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Response 530 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Jul 9, 2002 (16:02) * 1 lines
http://www.eoss.org for those who wish to use a hot link. I have always wondered what a maindenhead grid looked like. Please do add it to Geo. I am as curious as the rest. If you need the html command, email me and I will send it to you!
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Response 531 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Tue, Jul 9, 2002 (16:57) * 25 lines
Hi there
A good link on grid squares and how they apply to ham radio is:
http://www.arrl.org/locate/gridinfo.html
On the frequencies I work at, contacting a station in 5 different
grids is enough to claim an award. Of course, the clever ones would
go to a 'four corners' and hand out 4 easy contacts (sometimes!)
but you still have to do that 80+ mile contact to get that 5th grid.
When you 'rover' during a vhf-microwave contest, usually you drive
around in the most efficient course to hit major grid squares to hand
out contacts. Of course, you have to find a high point to park and
set up the radios/antennas. This is a good practice for a road rally.
For the 10ghz and up microwave contest that I will participate in,
you can move 10miles and that will suffice as a new location to count
for a contact. One strategy I plan to do is work up and down the
Lake Michigan shore line and give out a contact every 10 miles (if I
can find access to the lakefront without cutting through someones yard).
73 de Mike
AA9IL
r-c-i
Hopefuly I might even have some pictures of this foolishness during the
contest....
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Response 532 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 10, 2002 (11:08) * 5 lines
Oooh YES!!! Photos please! QSL card too if you can scan one for us. I think many are not familiar with how they look.
There are several rare isolated unpopulated counties in California. When they hcve county DX contests, a guy locates at the for corners of the junction of these counties and moves slightly to allow all to catch these rarities. Is that cheating? At least the guy out there with the drinks cooler and fast food is working hard! he is also usually alone or with one single other guy using one rig.
Good luck, Mike!!!
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Response 533 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Wed, Jul 10, 2002 (12:55) * 11 lines
Hi there
Doing the four corners of a grid is totally legit - I have done the equivalent
during contests by going to the next grid line. The only catch is to make sure
these points have some elevation for a line of sight contact.
BTW, is there any IM or IRC for the geo site?
73 de Mike
AA9IL
r-c-i
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Response 534 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 10, 2002 (13:11) * 3 lines
Not really. We should do that. Most of my contacts are on Yahoo IM but a few are on AOL (Please save yourself some anguish and use the AOL IM for non AOL users even if you use AOL for your connection to the internet!) Only Wolfie uses MSN. Suggestions, Mike? I have found ICQ too RAM intensive to be practical. Even on my home monster computer ICQ tends to make it freeze.
Suggestions from all are welcome. Currently I am bluegrassHula on AOL IM. I will be back to Kilauea83 on Yahoo as soon as my laptop gets here!
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Response 535 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Wed, Jul 10, 2002 (14:23) * 12 lines
Ok, dont really have an IM id yet but can always get one - via aol or yachoo
I think I hit the IRC channels once but the conversation ratio was pretty
dead - I have also endured the yachoo chat pages (supposedly created for
scientific chat topics) but it was full of teeny bop's flaming each other
as well as 'the end of the world is near' ranting, and general boorishness.
There is better signal to noise ratio on the bar car I sometimes ride on
when taking the train home. Once I get an id (mostlikely very soon - like
today...) I can pass it along. Thats one of the reasons I like the board so much is that it has a great S/N ratio.
More details as they happen!
73 de Mike
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Response 536 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 10, 2002 (21:16) * 1 lines
Ok Mike. I'd really suggest Yahoo, but private room chat or one on one seems to work best (one on one, that is.) This night finds me still laptopless and is more than a little discouraging. I will email son and have him trace it. Untill I have it I am not on Yahoo but on Don's computer. Stay tuned!
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Response 537 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Sat, Jul 13, 2002 (01:21) * 21 lines
VILLAGES OF THE LAND BEHIND THE MOUNTAINS, ZAGORIA, GREECE
Evidence of human existence goes back to more than 40,000 years B.C. in the Epirus region of Northwest Greece. Covering some 9,203 square kilometres, it has a unique environment with its very own identifiable culture. The first Greeks settled in Epirus as early as 2000 B.C. Its name has derived from the meaning "Infinity" and has been described as the very roof of the Greek race.
Tucked away deep in the Pindos Mountains, North of Ioannina, there is a part of Epirus known as Zagoria, a place of immense natural beauty. The villages of Zagoria are uniquely endowed with extraordinary natural beauty, a vast temperate forest ecosystem, distinctive architecture, cultural wealth and the sheer romance of an ancient way of life. From the Slavic word meaning "behind the mountains," Zagoria is defined by the Gamila (Tymfi) and Mitsikeli Mountains as well as the Aoos River. It is a part of the massive Pindus Mountain Range that stretches from Albania to Central Greece.
A vast proportion is heavily wooded, surrounded by a truly exciting geography, showing a remarkable diversity for such a relatively small area. Imposing mountains, luxuriant valleys are interspersed with rivers, waterfalls and streams. Towering cliffs and breathtaking ravines are around every bend, each one steeper and deeper than the next. None make a more lasting impression than the beautiful Vikos Gorge does - reputedly, Europe's largest ravine.
The gorge is often described as Europe's Grand Canyon, which perhaps is a little misleading. The main Vikos Gorge is just 12 kilometres long and approximately 2 kilometres wide - much smaller than the Grand Canyon. It does, however, plunge vertically for over a kilometre. It is this more tangible, more concentrated, but still awesome scale that makes the Vikos Gorge such an intense and involving experience.
One of the bridges in Zagoria Villages
As stone is one of the main natural local resources, it features strongly in all other construction. Some of the most striking, of this love affair with arches, are the famous Kipi bridges, possibly the best surviving example of a craft that flourished throughout the region during the Ottoman rule. The most amazing feat of engineering are the Vradeto steps, which took years to complete. This snaking, paved, banistered staircase skilfully conquers a palisade, winding up a near vertical cliff face. Until recent times, this was the only link between the village of Vradeto and the rest of the region.
http://www.travelux.co.uk/zagoinfo.html
John
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Response 538 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jul 15, 2002 (17:45) * 5 lines
How absolutly lovely! John, you live amongst the most stunning vistas on earth.I wonder if you get time to look at them. Thank you for sharing!
I am now on my newly restored laptop and logged in on my host's line.I will work on networking with him so we can both used the phone connection at the same time.Meanwhile I have downloaded the pictures I have taken and am ready to post a few of them.
I am very happy to be back in contact and with my own computer! My marci@aloha.net email is working again. Thanks to David for resurrecting my laptop at such minor expense!
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Response 539 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Tue, Jul 16, 2002 (13:48) * 9 lines
Howdy howdy
Glad you had your PC woes corrected! Looking forward to seeing your
pictures. Also, still am planning to get some shots at various grid
locations during the upcomming 10ghz contest.
73 de AA9IL
Mike
r-c-i
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Response 540 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Tue, Jul 16, 2002 (18:32) * 3 lines
Congratulations on getting your laptop restored Marcia. Wow! it did take
a long time. What part of the earth are you enjoying at this moment, I mean
your location. A warm Aloha to you.
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Response 541 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Wed, Jul 17, 2002 (07:13) * 13 lines
High eventuality for thunderstorms in Louisville, Kentucky this afternoon!
This radar weather image is special dedicated to Geo hostess and to our friends there.
(It is always updated)
From
http://www.wunderground.com/radar/station.asp?ID=LVX19
John
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Response 542 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 17, 2002 (16:10) * 5 lines
Thank you for the updating weather graphic.I am still in the southeast and inthe area covered by the map John posted. I have been listening to aircraft reporting uneven flying conditions due to these cells moving through the area. It is overcast, so if I go missing again it is only temporary and I shall return! As soon as the sky settles down again.
Aloha Sikander!I am very happy to be back. I missed my family in Geo more than you can imagine!
HUGS!
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Response 543 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Wed, Jul 17, 2002 (17:31) * 4 lines
It will be nice to read your many postings to all the topics. Now, if I
can get in the habit of posting more!
Mike
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Response 544 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 17, 2002 (18:01) * 5 lines
Mike, for a guy who is used to keying in CW, you do a splendid job of posting!
(CW for those not radio-oriented stands for Morse Code in the lingo of Hams.)
I have tons of backload to post and comment on. There is no stress in GEO. Take off your shoes and get comfy. That is what family is all about!
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Response 545 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Wed, Jul 17, 2002 (19:01) * 6 lines
Yes Marcia we'll wait for you.
John, what a fantastic way to show Marcia's location. Thanks, you're just
as great as Marcia.
Warm wishes to everyone in GEO.
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Response 546 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 17, 2002 (20:03) * 1 lines
Sikander, this sort of kudos is surely not earned by me, but John is most worthy. I have saved John's image to my desktop so I can watch the storms appreoach. I have not had this luxury for a very long time. I think it is veryt exciting - even if it gets a bit frightening on occasion. I really do not need to become part of a tornado to have fun!
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Response 547 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 17, 2002 (23:59) * 1 lines
However, I am always grateful for support of any kind in word and deed. Thanks for posting. Many wonderful hugs of Aloha for staying around Geo!
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Response 548 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Jul 18, 2002 (00:10) * 1 lines
Thus far into the night, no thunder storms have materialized. I think they are waiting for me to go to bed! Again, thank you John! You have provided me with an "active desktop!"
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Response 549 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jul 18, 2002 (08:27) * 1 lines
The rains go on and on here, this may turn out to be the rainiest month in the history of Austin. We're on the verge of major floods if the "big one" hits us again. Definitely we're on watch down here in central Texas.
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Response 550 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Jul 18, 2002 (11:34) * 3 lines
Worrying for you, Terry. I know you are on a major creek in one of your houses. We could sure use the rain, though we got none last night. It is waiting for me to go out to lunch, I'll bet! Still overcast but pleasantly cool outside if you don't have to work hard. Otherwise it is very humid and one gets damp in short order from exertion. That is rare for me. In Hawaii, it just evaporates. California is the same.
Watching your weather on the portal page weather link John so kindly and expertly set up. You are there, too!
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Response 551 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Thu, Jul 18, 2002 (22:31) * 1 lines
didn't houston just get some major rain too?
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Response 552 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Jul 19, 2002 (00:57) * 1 lines
San Antonio did ! When I was through Dallas it looked VERY dry. I hope it moderates soon. Too much rain is a serious problem, anywhere! But, especiallyh in the location of central Texas where it is usually so hot and dry. Feast or famine just like the rest of the world with the odd weather happening. Send some east, Terry. We can use it in Louisville!
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Response 553 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Sat, Jul 20, 2002 (09:50) * 2 lines
We need some rain here too. Karachi seems to be on the verge of having
extreme water shortage problem.
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Response 554 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Jul 20, 2002 (12:12) * 1 lines
Texas is a BIG state, but it surely has more than its share of the rain lately.I will get out my ethnographic material and summon up a Native American rain dance. It might not work, but it also could not hurt !
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Response 555 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Sat, Jul 20, 2002 (20:09) * 1 lines
Perhaps if we invite Gene Kelly to the rain dance, it might work. "laugh"
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Response 556 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Jul 20, 2002 (21:13) * 5 lines
Oh Sikander, you are brilliant! If I could sing and dance as well as GeneKelly did in Singin' in the Rain we would have deluges wherever I go. Alas I do not. In Hawaii, where rain is abundant, they have an old Hawaiian tradition that rain is a blessing, and if you pick certain flowers it will rain. Ithink it just rains as a part of the climate and atmspheric flow patterns.
But,Like all mythology, they have a reason for each phenomenon they cannot explain. Back when these superstitions were created, there was MUCH we did not understand! Are we so different today? Have you knocked on wood lately?
It was fantastic talking to you in my evening yesterday, Sikander, and John, welcome back to my monitor. I have missed talking less formally and getting to know how the world is treating you all.
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Response 557 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Mon, Jul 22, 2002 (06:39) * 11 lines
Over Evripos channel, at the centre of the city Halkis.
I was there the past Thursday and Friday. I saw the amazing strong tidal phenomenon under this bridge. It is as a river inside the sea.
Many legends exist, trying to justify the almost unique tide phenomenon. Some researchers stayed on the illusion of explaining it while some others, unable to explain it, stayed admiring its magnificence. The water-flow in Evripos channel is changing direction about every 6 hours, a rare physical phenomenon, triggering the imagination and the curiosity of humans since the prehistoric times, searching for mythological, astronomical, physical and philosophical explanations. The place where the old bridge is built, is the narrowest point of the channel, and the water current can reach the speed of 15km (9 miles) per hour! It is really interesting to watch the reversion of flow direction that happens about every 6 hours. The exact time of reversion is determined by the position of the moon.
http://www.virtualtourist.com/m/.142118/1129/?s=H
John
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Response 558 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Mon, Jul 22, 2002 (06:41) * 9 lines
I was here during my weekend with an old good friend. It is at the east Mt Pelion.
More photos here:
http://www.pilion.net/papanero/pne-pict.htm
John
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Response 559 of 1049: Sikander Zawawi (TheMaharaja) * Mon, Jul 22, 2002 (10:32) * 5 lines
Be they legends or traditional beliefs or superstition in scientific
terms, I find them to be romantic. So Marcia, whether it rains or not after
picking that special flower, I would look towards heaven, close my eyes and imagine that drops of rain were falling on my face; I love traditions. The
same goes for legends John. By the way John I saw all the pictures.
Papa-Nero beach looks a beautiful place for spending the week-end. Lucky you.
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Response 560 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jul 22, 2002 (17:55) * 3 lines
John, Hawaii's beaches hide in shame compared to the spendors of Greece's lovely silicate beaches. This truly is beautiful. AND, If I had all the time in the world and access to the necessary resources, I could happily spend the restof my life hunting down the scientific reason behind myth and folklore of phenomena found on earth. I also find traditions wonderfully imaginative and containing much truth as they understood it at the time. Skiander, perhaps we might post what is traditional explainations in Pakistan...?! I suspect GeoMysteries might be a good place to begin.
Beautful Pictures. I will try to find a saiche or tidal bore on another river or yours depending on the availability. I have also witnessed this and it amazingly powerful. The entire Bay of Fundy in Maine is involved in one of the world's strongest. More as I find it.
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Response 561 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Tue, Jul 23, 2002 (18:56) * 1 lines
I think that there is also a river mouth in northern China which is subject to something similar. The highest tides in the world have reportedly been measured in the Bay of Fundy.
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Response 562 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Wed, Jul 24, 2002 (05:21) * 9 lines
Hi all,
Hawaii is the place where Earth gives birth to a new baby... land. Do you know any new-born infant that is beautiful?
From the other hand, Hawaii can show to human eyes, how is paradise and hell simultaneously!
The hell of fire in your volcanoes has also its unique beauty.
My poor opinion is that a place can be part of paradise or hell, depending on our company. Hell can be paradise if we have the appropriate company.
John
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Response 563 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Wed, Jul 24, 2002 (05:37) * 24 lines
Hi Cheryl and all,
You have right. Here is additional information about the highest tides on Earth.
The Highest Tides on Earth occur in the Minas Basin!!
The tides on Earth are strongly influenced, in addition to astronomical factors, by the sizes, boundaries, and depths of ocean basins and inlets, and by Earth's rotation, winds, and barometric pressure fluctuations. Tides typically have ranges (vertica high-to-low) of a metre or two, but there are regions in the oceans where various influences conspire to produce virtually no tides at all, and others where the tides are greatly amplified. Among the latter regions are the Sea of Okhotsk, the northern coast of Australia, the English channel, and in Canada at the Ungava Bay in northern Quebec and the Bay of Fundy between New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. The tidal ranges in these regions are of the order of 10 metres.
The highest tides on Earth occur in the Minas Basin, the eastern extremity of the Bay of Fundy, where the average tide range is 12 metres and can reach 16 metres when the various factors affecting the tides are in phase (although the highest tides occur typically a day or two after the astronomical influences reach their peak).
The primary cause of the immense tides of Fundy is a resonance of the Bay of Fundy-Gulf of Maine system. The system is effectively bounded at tis outer end by the edge of the continental shelf with its approximately 40:1 increase in depth. The system has a natural period of approximately 13 hours, which is close to the 12h25m period of the dominant lunar tide of the Atlantic Ocean.
Like a father pushing his daughter on a swing, the gentle Atlantic tidal pulse pushes the waters of the Bay of Fundy-Gulf of Maine basin at nearly the optimum frequency to cause a large to-and-fro oscillation. The grestest slosh occurs at the head (northeast end) of the system. Because Earth rotates counterclockwise in the Norhern Hemisphere, the tides are higher in Minas Basin (Wolfville-Truro area) than in Chignecto Bay (Amherst-Moncton area).
Although it is the gravitation of the Moon and Sun that raises the tides, the energy in the churning waters is extracted from the rotational energy of Earth spinning on its axis. Near Annapolis Royal, Nova Scotia, a tiny portion of this energy is being converted into commercial electrical energy in the only tidal power plant in the Western Hemisphere. The peak output of the Annapolis Basin generator is 20 megawatts, about 1% of Nova Scotia's electrical power capacity.
Tidal friction both lengthens the day and increases the size of the orbit of the Moon. The day is lengthening by about 1 second every 50,000 years, imperceptible on a human time scale, but of profound significance to Earth's rotation over a few billiion years. If the Sun does not first incinerate our planet, in the distant future there will come a day that is as long as the lunar month (each then equal to about 40 present days) and a more distant Moon will stand stationary in the sky, as does Earth now in theh lunar sky. But this situation will not endure, for solar tides will still be present and will cause the Moon to approach Earth once more.
More
http://www.valleyweb.com/fundytides/
John
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Response 564 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Wed, Jul 24, 2002 (19:08) * 2 lines
Thanks for the detailed information on the Bay of Fundy tides, John.
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Response 565 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Jul 24, 2002 (21:56) * 2 lines
I have only seen the lower Bay of Fundy tidal bores. That is awesome in itself.
Thank you for not only the information but also for the excellent map. I know people who have wanted to surf that wave all those miles to the inland terminus!
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Response 566 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Thu, Jul 25, 2002 (16:03) * 20 lines
Australia's first camel dairy to open
An Australian man plans to set up business milking camels.
Neil Waters will open the country's first camel dairy near Alice Springs.
Neil, who runs Camels Australia, says the milk has a similar nutritional quality to goats' milk.
He told the ABC website: "Hopefully we'll be milking half a dozen this year - and once we can sort that out we can find out how many camels it's going to take to get plenty of litres of milk.
"It'll take a while before we can actually train them up to milking - they generally don't like you playing with their teats."
Story filed: 10:37 Thursday 25th July 2002
Animal tales
Farming
orange.co.uk/today
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Response 567 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Fri, Jul 26, 2002 (00:33) * 28 lines
THE BRAIN WORKOUT
Research shows that exercise boosts more than your butt:
It makes you smarter, too
By JUDI SHEPPARD MISSETT
The connections between physical, emotional and mental health are widely accepted, and scientific research indicates that regular exercise plays a vital role in achieving optimal health in all three areas.
Physically, exercise has a positive influence on everything from weight control to cancer and heart-disease risk. Mentally and emotionally, exercise is a natural stress reducer, self-esteem-booster and anti-depressant.
But here's a benefit that is often overlooked: Exercise stimulates mental acuity, as well.
The biological changes prompted by exercise improve our "capacity to master new, and remember old, information," says Dr. John J. Ratey, Harvard University professor of clinical psychiatry and author of "A User's Guide to the Brain." Ratey explains that "physical movements call upon many of the same neurons used for reading, writing and math" and that "physically active people reported an increase in academic abilities, memory retrieval and cognitive abilities."
Scientists once believed that people lost brain function as they aged, due to an outright loss of nerve cells. Today, research indicates that memory lapses are more likely due to a breakdown in the synapses or connections between nerves. In fact, researchers from the University of California at Irvine found that a healthy brain continues to grow new neurons indefinitely, which can actually slow the brain's aging process and even reverse existing damage. But a healthy brain is a product of a balanced lifestyle that includes proper nutrition, stress management and mental and physical exercise.
Stimulate your mind
What makes physical exercise so important? In addition to reducing stress, aerobic exercise washes the brain in fresh oxygen and increases the production of growth agents for nerve cells. Study participants at the Beckman Institute for Science and Technology at University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign who moved from a sedentary to active lifestyle (three 45-minute aerobic workouts per week) improved their mental performance by as much as 25% in six months.
A diet rich in antioxidants is also helpful. Reactive forms of oxygen, called free radicals, are a natural by-product of our metabolism. Free radicals break down cell membranes throughout the body and can affect cell connections in the brain. While our bodies produce antioxidants to protect and repair cells from this process, the production slows with age; hence the need for dietary assistance.
People whose diets included Vitamins C, E, B and beta-carotene scored higher on memory tests and appeared to maintain mental function better than those who did not get adequate amounts of these nutrients. Fruits and vegetables are a great source of antioxidants.
Finally, experts recommend giving your brain a mental workout as well. Word puzzles, hobbies, socializing, reading, travel (any thought-provoking activities) stimulate the brain, increasing blood flow and strengthening both brain cells and the connections between them.
The following exercise is an excellent addition to any program. It strengthens the muscles of your hips, while improving balance and challenging your posture stabilization muscles. Begin by standing tall with your feet hip-width-apart. Point your right foot out to the side, as you reach your arms out for balance. Keeping your hips level, slowly lift your right leg a few inches off the floor. Pause briefly, standing tall and balancing on your left foot before lowering your right foot back to the floor. Repeat 10 to 15 times before repeating the movements on the opposite side.
http://www.nydailynews.com/city_life/health/story/5046p-4688c.html
John
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Response 568 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Jul 26, 2002 (11:29) * 1 lines
*sigh* I hate sweating. Is there any other way to bathe the brain in Oxygen by hiking in a cool climate? It seems we have to be miserable to achieve anything. I personally find a good lively night-long discussion more stimulating than a hot run. And, plenty of sleep is also necessary.
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Response 569 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Aug 3, 2002 (00:27) * 27 lines
for John:
Pre-Olympic sailing event to be held this month Athens, 02/08/2002
(ANA)
An Athens 2004 pre-Olympic sailing regatta will be held from Aug. 16-23 off the
Aghios Kosmas coastal district in southeast Athens.
The event is designed to allow athletes to be familiarized with the maritime and
weather conditions at the specific sailing venue. The regatta is the first of two
sailing test events.
The first pre-Olympic regatta will be held at temporary facilities of Aghios
Kosmas, while a new Olympic Sailing Center is under construction and is
expected to be ready for a second test event in August 2003.
The Athens 2004 organizing committee (ATHOC) has promised to conduct
a series of test events based -- as closely as possible -- on a real
event environment.
Although only one test event is scheduled for each competition at each Olympic
facility, sailing is the only sport for which two pre-Olympic events have been
scheduled.
http://www.goGreece.com/news/headlines/story.html?id=7203
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Response 570 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Sat, Aug 3, 2002 (21:50) * 3 lines
julie: not geo-related, since i know you're in the so cal area, please be on the lookout for stolen birds from local petstores (in the past week or so):
http://www.beakstreet.com/alert.htm
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Response 571 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Aug 4, 2002 (00:25) * 1 lines
Good grief, Wolfie!!! I suspect they have left the state by now just like stolen cars!
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Response 572 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Sun, Aug 4, 2002 (10:16) * 1 lines
actually, they think they're looking for a quick buck....very sad since some are babies and will need to be handfed every two hours.
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Response 573 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Aug 4, 2002 (16:57) * 1 lines
In this heat (if it is close to being as hot as here) they will not survive, I fear. Babies need special handling and temperature controls. How terribly sad.
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Response 574 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Sun, Aug 4, 2002 (19:30) * 1 lines
indeed!
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Response 575 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Mon, Aug 12, 2002 (14:01) * 33 lines
Skywatchers await celestial display
The Perseids are particularly spectacular and appear in the constellation Perseus.
Astronomers are predicting a spectacular display of shooting stars over the next few days.
Dozens of meteors are expected to shoot across the sky every hour.
The Perseids should be visible as streaks of coloured light in the night sky before dawn on Tuesday.
"Tonight we'll probably see - if we're lucky and there's a good clear sky - an increased number of shooting stars, or meteors as astronomers prefer to call them," Robin Scagell, of the Society for Popular Astronomy, told the BBC.
"It happens at this time of year each year and it's been happening like this as long as people can remember, certainly way back until around the beginning of the Christian era."
Comet trail
Meteors are streaks of light in the sky caused by small pieces of comet dust disintegrating in the Earth's atmosphere.
When comets pass close to the Sun, they begin to evaporate and leave behind a trail of gas and dust.
They are among the fastest meteors, hitting the atmosphere at 60 kilometres per second.
They occur each August when the Earth runs through the dusty debris from comet Swift-Tuttle.
How to see the Perseids:
Choose a dark location, away from city lights. Look up towards an unobstructed part of the sky. Face away from the Moon. When the Earth passes through this trail, we have a meteor shower.
Source: BBC NEWS (Monday, 12 August, 2002, 10:51 GMT 11:51 UK).
Note for Geo friends:
To find where is the constellation Perseus, you can use your local night sky map, which included in our Geo Portal pages for you.
John
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Response 576 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Aug 16, 2002 (00:34) * 2 lines
Did anyone get to see the Perseids? Thanks for putting it in the Portal page.
I was in the mountains of Tennessee with just about total sky availability but nothing showed up due to high cloud cover.
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Response 577 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Fri, Aug 16, 2002 (18:54) * 1 lines
alas, no. i was too tired to get up at 2AM!
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Response 578 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Aug 16, 2002 (21:54) * 3 lines
I did hear to amateur radio operators talking about their success. One saw "more than one hundred" during his time outdoors. I guess it was pretty good if you had the energy and skies to view it.
...Next time!
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Response 579 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Aug 21, 2002 (00:20) * 6 lines
AURORA ALERT:
Middle Latitudes should be
able to view Aurora. Go look. Radio
users should be able to work some
Aurora-mode propagation.
More at http://prop.hfradio.org/
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Response 580 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Wed, Aug 21, 2002 (11:01) * 13 lines
Auroral Activity Extrapolated from NOAA POES
Left: North pole, Right: South pole
The above plots show the current extent and position of the auroral oval at each pole, extrapolated from measurements taken during the most recent polar pass of the NOAA POES satellite. "Center time" is the calculated time halfway through the satellite's pass over the pole.
Source: http://www.sel.noaa.gov/pmap/index.html
Note: The above images are continuously updated.
John
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Response 581 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Aug 21, 2002 (18:46) * 15 lines
I suspect we are all too far south except for Cosmic Mike.
Auroras over North America
http://www.spaceweather.com
As night fell across North America on Tuesday, August 20th, the
interplanetary magnetic field near Earth turned south--a condition that
favors geomagnetic activity and Northern Lights. At the time this notice
was issued (Aug. 20th at 8:30 p.m. PDT) a geomagnetic storm was in
progress with observers in New Hampshire reporting colorful auroras. Sky
watchers should remain alert for Northern Lights so long as the storm
continues (visit spaceweather.com for updates). Canada, Alaska and the
northern tier of US states (from Maine to Michigan to Washington) are
favored; the hours around local midnight are usually the best times to look.
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Response 582 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Thu, Aug 22, 2002 (13:51) * 6 lines
Hi all
must be aurora time - we had thunderstorms all last night and today...
73 de Mike
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Response 583 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (00:57) * 1 lines
That is precisely what relatives in the Northeastern US said! A sure indication of cloudy or stormy weather is a CME event!
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Response 584 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (05:03) * 3 lines
I think that it is not CME’s result. We have also CRAZY WEATHER in Greece. Temperature was only 17 degrees last night. I never remember such low temperatures in the August. We have strong rain every evening! But we are OK. Instead, the rest planet counts many deaths from unexpected natural disasters.
John
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Response 585 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (12:58) * 1 lines
had no idea that yucky weather could indicate CME!
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Response 586 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Aug 23, 2002 (22:02) * 1 lines
It means if there is an aurora to be seen, and we want to see it, it rains so we can't see it.Auroras are caused by CMEs. Therefore, from a very strange set of logical thoughts comes an invalid conclusion that CMEs cause bad weather. Just like eclipses do and meteor showers. *Sigh*
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Response 587 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Sat, Aug 24, 2002 (10:03) * 1 lines
and anytime the space shuttle rips itself through our atmosphere (my dad's theory)
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Response 588 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Aug 24, 2002 (12:21) * 1 lines
Your dad is an original and independent thinker, is he not?! I had never heard that theory. Of course, On certain bad days I may be wearing blue socks. Does that mean....?? *;)
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Response 589 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Aug 25, 2002 (19:32) * 39 lines
Is NOTHING sacred anymore?
Womens' knickers could have protected kilt-wearing soldiers
Scientists experimented with women's underwear impregnated
with chemicals as protection for Scottish soldiers wearing kilts.
Newly declassified documents from the Public Record Office
show the research was carried out in 1939 amid fears that
Highland regiments could be vulnerable to mustard gas burns.
The Sunday Times reports they have traditionally worn nothing
under their kilts.
It reports experts at Porton Down in Wiltshire, the government's
chemical weapons research establishment, carried out
experiments using woollen stockings and knickers soaked in
chemicals.
They were designed to protect the soldiers from gas attacks
which inflicted serious burns during the First World War.
The documents reveal five volunteers were kitted out in long
golf stockings with extended woollen tops, tucked into ladies
"Vedonis woollen knickers impregnated with protective
chemicals dissolved in white spirit".
They were exposed to mustard gas intermittently for five days.
Although they were protected against burns, it was decided the
plans were impractical and too expensive.
The paper reports it was also accepted the soldiers would be
unlikely to agree to wear such undignified clothing.
The kilt was withdrawn as official battle dress in 1940. British
soldiers were not subjected to German chemical attacks in the
Second World War.
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_657072.html?menu=news.scienceanddiscovery
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Response 590 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Tue, Aug 27, 2002 (01:22) * 38 lines
Type with your eye
The eyetracker can work out where you are looking
Software which allows computer users to write without touching the keyboard has been developed by scientists at Cambridge University in the UK.
Dubbed Dasher, the text entry system could transform computing for people unable to use a normal keyboard.
Designed by David MacKay and David Ward in the University's Department of Physics, the system uses an eyetracker which can deduce where the user is looking on the screen.
Letters continuously appear on the screen, with Dasher displaying the most likely pairings or triplets of letters. It can even guess whole words.
Few spelling mistakes
Dasher's knowledge of English is cumulative so it will remember new words and has already digested some classic authors such as Jane Austen and Lewis Caroll in its attempt to help users write quickly and accurately.
"The software works like a video game in which the user steers ever deeper into an enormous library," explained Dr MacKay.
The system is faster than other eyetracking systems producing up to 25 words per minute compared to the 15 word per minute currently possible.
"Not only is this faster than any alternative writing system driven by an eyetracker, the frequency of spelling mistakes is about five times smaller and the new system is also less stressful to use," added Dr MacKay.
Its inventors stress that Dasher has not caused any eyestrain in experiments.
Useful in China
But users preferring not to rely on their eyes can also use a mouse, rollerball or touchpad.
Dasher will be developed as an open source software project, Dr MacKay said.
It is hoped that the software will be useful for handheld computers or mobile phones where there is no space for a keyboard.
It could also prove invaluable in the burgeoning markets in Japan and China.
Both languages have thousands of characters meaning they are poorly suited to conventional keyboards.
The research was published in the journal Nature.
Source: BBC NEWS
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Response 591 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Aug 27, 2002 (20:15) * 1 lines
I hope this is more successful than the voice typing software I have used. The one I tried could not even get my name right. This eye-typing sounds very promising for the handicapped. I am most hopeful for its success.
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Response 592 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Aug 27, 2002 (20:16) * 74 lines
Meteorite' hits girl
Siobhan Cowton: "I saw it fall from above roof height"
The odds against being hit by a meteorite are
billions to one - but a teenager in North
Yorkshire may have had one land on her foot.
Siobhan Cowton, 14, was getting into the
family car outside her Northallerton home at
1030 BST on Thursday when a stone fell on
her from the sky.
Noticing it was "quite
hot", she showed it to
her father Niel.
The family now plan to
have the stone analysed
by scientists at Durham
University.
"I saw it fall from above roof height," Siobhan
told BBC News Online.
"It looked very unusual, with a bubbled surface
and tiny indentations like volcanic lava.
'Shiny'
"It was shiny on one side and looked rusty as if
it contained iron.
"I've seen shooting stars before - but nothing
like this. This does not happen very often in
Northallerton."
Mr Cowton, 45, told BBC News Online he would
take the stone to be analysed himself.
"It is not going to
leave my sight
because it is a very
rare find," he said.
"It is worth a lot to
Siobhan.
"We will have it
mounted in a glass
presentation case so
she can keep it for the
rest of her life.
"After all it is not
every day you get hit by a meteorite.
"The odds of winning the Lottery are better."
The stone could have come from Mars,
according to expert on Earth impacts Dr Benny
Peiser, of Liverpool John Moores University.
"It could be billions of years old and come from
the earliest formation of the solar system," he
told the Daily Mail newspaper.
Most meteors are between five and 60
centimetres (1.95 in and 1 ft 11.5 in) long,
according to Durham University physical
geography lecturer Dr Ben Horton.
"Sometimes they have shallow depressions and
cavities," he said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2218755.stm
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Response 593 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Wed, Aug 28, 2002 (05:40) * 5 lines
I'm afraid for how can learn correct language the new generations. Is it possible only with eyes?
They will lost the second way of communications!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They have already lost the voice way because they communicate typing messages on its Cell Phones!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John
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Response 594 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Fri, Aug 30, 2002 (13:59) * 4 lines
Okay, this is just for fun. It's a link to the Celtic Zodiac, which is based on a 13 sign lunar calendar. The signs are mostly trees, atleast all are plants; as it was originated by Druids that would make sense. I just find astrology fun in general and hope that this site being essentially a Wiccan site doesn't upset anyone.
http://www.ladytia.com/celt/zodiac.htm
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Response 595 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Aug 30, 2002 (20:04) * 1 lines
I found that site long ago and lost track of it in the meanwhile. Thanks for posting it. I seem to be a Hawthorn and my planet is Vulcan As for the rest, you will have to judge that for yourselves. I find it very amusing! Thanks, Cheryl.
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Response 596 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Fri, Aug 30, 2002 (20:07) * 1 lines
and as your twin, marica, i'm a hawthorn too!
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Response 597 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Aug 30, 2002 (23:01) * 1 lines
Indeed, and for you it is fitting that what applies to me also applies to you. Btw, it got Geo's resident Geologist right on target!
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Response 598 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Wed, Sep 4, 2002 (15:49) * 4 lines
Hi all
Interesting zodiac site - seems I'm an Ash person!
73 de Mike
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Response 599 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Wed, Sep 4, 2002 (17:04) * 1 lines
The site is fun to visit. I'm a Rowan.
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Response 600 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Wed, Sep 4, 2002 (17:06) * 17 lines
If you ever lived in an apartment and thought that you had irritating neighbors. Can you imagine living in this building.
Relief as the Cows Upstairs Move Out
Fri Aug 30,10:26 AM ET
ISTANBUL (Reuters) - A Turkish woman has begun selling the cows she kept in upstairs apartments in the city of Trabzon, to the relief of her neighbors.
Local alderman Osman Terzi said health and safety officials had ordered the cows to be cleared out of the first and third floors of the building in the Black Sea port city.
"I have learned that Fatma Kocaman has started selling her cows, which is a very pleasing development," the Anatolian news agency quoted him saying on Thursday. It said she had kept "a large number" of cows there.
"It's hard to believe someone would keep cows in an apartment. For years me and the locals have wondered what to do...The area has suffered a lot. Noise, smell and manure everywhere make a very ugly scene," Terzi said.
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Response 601 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Thu, Sep 5, 2002 (03:00) * 5 lines
Hi all
I am Ash Tree person according to Celtic Zodiac. Just like Mike. But I have not seeing something for our exploratory nature. It is really interesting finally.
John
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Response 602 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Sep 7, 2002 (16:59) * 225 lines
John and Mike are very creative and electrically adept gentlemen. How fitting they are the same sign. I find most of this just as fun, but occasionally they get come characteristic or another right on target. That is amazing. I guess we take what we want from each. In that vein I post the following totally irrelevant information:
Fishing Guide the Stars
by Kramer Wetzel
For the Week of 9/5-11/2002
Virgo: You can't really see it, but I'm sure you can feel it. Mars lines up
with the Sun during the next few days. This is akin to taking a stock truck,
and adding all the things under the hood that matter. Once you get all that
extra stuff crammed onto the motor, the truck moves pretty fast. The thing
is, you can't see all the modifications. We used to call these street
"sleepers" because you never knew it was a highly modified vehicle until you
got stuck eating its dust. Likewise, you can't see Mars right next to the
Sun, but take my word for it, he's there, and trust me on this one, he's
adding a lot of fuel to that Virgo fire engine. You can brag about this, you
can take credit, make boastful claims, or, you can do this the right way:
let them eat your Virgo dust. It's that simple. Instead of telling us what
you can do, just put your foot into it. Show us what you can do.
Libra: This is the week I lose popularity with Libra fans. Maybe not all,
but most them will have unkind thoughts and words directed towards me. The
deal is, there's great stuff stirring for other signs right now. But like
most of my "brushes with fame," all this great stuff hits at some time when
the focus is directed towards other people. Most of my fine, Libra friends
understand how this works. What makes me unpopular is the concept that this
means someone else gets the attention. That's a big problem. It's the big
time right before your special birthday, and you feel like I'm directing
everyone's attention away from you. It's not me, but you get the idea. We're
all right around the corner from what should be a really good Libra Birthday
blast, and all I can suggest is it's a time to let other people have the
spotlight. Matter of fact, you're going to feel like your timing is off,
your mouth doesn't quite say what you want it to say, and nothing seems to
work quite the way you want it to. As long as nothing is going the way you
want it to, why not relax about this issue. You and I both know that your
birthday party month is around the corner. Look a little further down the
road than just this week, and you can see where it will be good, all good.
Let someone else enjoy the limelight now -- your turn is coming.
Scorpio: Within the confines of the great state of Texas, it's finally
starting to cool off some. Welcome relief, if you ask me. With the somewhat
cooler temperatures, there's a little itch that you get under your Scorpio
skin. I'm all for scratching that itch. I'm all for you doing just what it
is that you want to do. Skip the bad news. Skip listening to "prophet of
doom" astrologers. Miss Venus is going to be creeping into your sign -- this
is a good thing. Now, Miss Venus is a little self-indulgent at times.
Imagine that, a Scorpio who might want to indulge herself [himself, itself,
whatever]? Instead of fighting that urge, and instead of me telling you to
stick to business, stick to work, stick to important stuff, I'd suggest by
this time next week, you should be having yourself a high time. You know, go
ahead and have some fun. Don't complain to me if no one around you wants to
play. If a certain party doesn't want to be included in your party plans,
then move on to the next one. It's really that simple. I call a situation
like this a numbers a game, because you might have to make several calls
before you find a willing participant or two, but keep calling. I'd estimate
your averages are better than anyone else's about now. Just because some
folks are a little down, that doesn't mean you should be, too.
Sagittarius: Depression is a ticklish subject. Different people deal with
depression in different ways. Some folks require loads of medication,
therapists, and toys to massage the ego. Other folks, like me, just do a
little shopping. Nothing like acquiring some new music, or a new book, to
help ease the pain. While spending money is also lots of fun, it might not
be the best time for such an activity this coming weekend. The feeling of
depression, though, there's a good chance that it occurs. Get over it. Move
your body. Change your location. That might not really solve the problem,
that might not address the core issue, but it does make you feel a little
better at the moment. As soon as next week gets here, you're feeling about
100% better. You have a little edge to you, though, and you can thank Mr.
Mars for that. He's in Virgo, and as such, he creates a tension angle to our
sign. Activity is good. Anything that gets you on your feet, out the door,
and moving along is what works for you. I would suggest that you use a
little more caution when moving about. With this Mars tension, I'm usually
tempted to try to do too much. While too much of a good thing is always
appealing to a Sagittarius, this next few days, too much might not be in our
best interest.
Capricorn: I'm fortunate because most of the residents of Shady Acres
Trailer Park don't really believe in astrology too much. I don't get called
upon by my neighbors to do readings. One place I lived, I had a neighbor who
would not hesitate to knock on my door at 3 in the morning, "Hey, I thought
I saw your light on, can you just look at my chart real quick like? I just
met this guy tonight...." Such interruptions aren't always bad, but on that
one occasion when I was "entertaining" a particular female, the neighbor's
intrusion didn't go over too well. [And people wonder why I now live like a
monk!] With an exception of one, untimely, interruption, you've got what is
basically a good couple of days coming along. There's one problem, though,
and I'm not sure that you're going to be quite prepared for it. It's like
that neighbor knocking -- at the most inopportune moment. You're like me,
suddenly you have two females, one who gives you money, the other, the one
you spend that money on, and one of the two is glaring at the other one.
Confused? You should see what it looks like from my very innocent point of
view. Usually, you -- and I -- can talk our way out such situations.
Usually. Except for this one instantaneous of apparently bad timing, though,
things are pretty good. Good luck explaining.
Aquarius: There's a unique kind of influence that just hit you. The deal is
this coming weekend is great time to put some plans into action, put some
ideas into action, get ready to launch some new project. Here's the hot tip:
it's not something that you do alone. As soon as I suggest an activity along
those lines, though, there's a great host of my fine Aquarius friends who
all assume that this means it's a time for "relationship stuff." I was
really looking for something out-of-the-ordinary, though, something more
along the lines of a career type of project. Sure, there's plenty of time
for that romantic stuff, if you so desire. But I'd really like to get your
attention more directed towards a career goal. This might -- or might not --
have something to do with your job. Career, in this definition, is what you
like to do, what you called to do, and what you do because you want to.
Doesn't necessarily mean it's your job. Might be. Or might be some big deal
you've been meaning to attack. Try getting up early this coming weekend, and
get after this little project.
Pisces: It's only happened once or twice, but my mistakes -- which are
usually good fodder for self-deprecating jokes -- come to mind under this
astrological influence in your chart. I carefully wrote down a time when I
was supposed to meet a client. Then, I bumped the time ahead by half an hour
so I could get there a little early. Forgetting that I had advanced the time
I wrote down, I bounced ahead another half hour, so I was set to exactly one
hour early for an appointment. Now, on that fateful day, I took one look at
the appointments for the afternoon, and I figured I needed an extra half
hour to get there, and an extra half hour to grab a quick bite, so suddenly
I was now three hours early. I can't say for all local newspapers, but our
local version really doesn't include a whole three hours of material in it.
Starting to get the picture? I was way ahead of schedule. I was as close as
it gets to being bored. While I enjoy chatting up that one Gemini waitress,
seeing as how I was going to be there for more than three hours, I started
to wear out my welcome. With Mars in his relative position, you're going
want to check your schedules a little closer than I do. And with the Sun
over in Virgo, too, you're going to find that folks don't seem to be running
on the same timetable that you're on. Plan accordingly.
Aries: I was off on one of my rambling jaunts around town the other
afternoon. It's too much trouble to gas up the truck, and the walk is
restful in an athletic way. Besides, where I set out for, whatever the
destination might be, the route can always change where I go. I tend to
meander in and around several of the neighborhoods, just trying to work it
all in. This sort of synergistic way of dealing with life is not always a
good model for Aries. Pick a single direction, unlike me, and follow it.
Now, on that one afternoon last week, I slipped my phone into my pocket as I
didn't want to be out of touch. Not wearing my normal shorts, but some fancy
"dress slacks" shorts instead, I encountered a problem I didn't know about.
The way the pockets are cut, the phone rubs my leg, and it dials itself some
of the numbers on speed dial setup. So my phone started talking to, in no
particular order, a red headed Capricorn, Ma Wetzel, and some girl in El
Paso. Not too mention that one Virgo, as well. When I finally corrected the
errant phone's behavior, it was too late. I had a voice mail box full of
messages from my buddies (and Ma Wetzel.) Check the details. Make sure your
phone [or other communication equipment] doesn't start randomly dialing
folks up, just so they can hear you walking along.
Taurus: Something is hurrying you along. It's like a pressure I get behind
my eyes some times. "I know there's fish out there, and I can feel they want
to bite me," I sense. Lovely sense. Too bad it's not always the case. I seem
to spend a greater portion of the previous month [August], out at the lake,
catching little, if anything. This just goes to show that I understand that
feeling you've got, it's about the same thing. Now, before you get too
upset, let me explain further -- the feeling is that there is something
"pending," something is "about to happen," and I'm agreeing with you about
this. For a change, I'd also suggest that your sense of this impending
action is 100% accurate. Your timing might be a little off, but it's going
to start this weekend, then carry itself forward into next week. You'll be
surprised, this could be something very big. [That's "very big" in a good
way.]
Gemini: Topwater action is supposed to be picking up by now. One of the
lakes I really like has several creek bottom coves, and there will be a
stretch of shallow water, a "shelf", covered with various forms of aquatic
weeds. Dragging the right lure right across the top of the weeds has a
remarkable effect, Them big, old bass rise right up, then it's a mighty
fight to the finish. The real trick in this situation is to find that
"right" lure. What's going to work best to get the thing you want [big bass]
to take your hook [lure]? The 30 seconds or so or action, while you reel
that monster fish in, that's the fun part. It's the getting ready part that
is so important. My personal favorite is a type of lure with a few ball
bearings in it. These little orbs of metal rattle around and create a sonic
disturbance. It's more like altering the fish that a target is passing right
over their fish heads. Usually works quite well. Now, with the beginning of
a new lunar cycle, you need to make a little noise, a little extra Gemini
noise, like those ball bearing, and you can attract a little extra attention
to whatever it is that you want to attract attention to. This can be a deal
you're working on. This can be a mate you're trying to land. Could be any
combination of these elements. A little "kicking topwater action" is all but
assured -- provided you make the right noise to attract what you want to
attract.
Cancer: Two things are happening. One, you're a lot more vocal by now. Two,
despite your golden voice, you're less inclined to able to sway us to your
point of view. As an addendum to that last thought, even if you're right,
you're still having trouble convincing us to see it from where you stand. In
fact, it doesn't matter how smooth and silky you deliver that message, and
it doesn't matter how right you are, the message itself is not getting
through. Content versus medium, an old debate from the last few years,
that's for sure. Instead of worrying about the content, why not just
concentrate on the delivery mechanism? As long as no one is really listening
to what you're saying, just how you're saying it, why not work on the
delivery method? Stretch that vocabulary, find some new words. Grab a
dictionary or use that built-in thesaurus. You can always follow one of my
useful guidelines: never use one word when three or four will do. Makes the
editor a little cranky, but the words flow in such a melodic way that the
effect is like poetry. Pretty little poesy is your strength, use it.
Leo: Put the plastic away. I forget the details, but I think it's something
like consumer debt has never been at a higher point than right now. I could
be wrong, and I don't trust all the statistics I read on the web. Or in
newspapers, for that matter. But don't add to this consumer debt number, not
at this point. You've got a good bit luck, a long streak you've been
promised, but the way to take advantage of this good luck is by not spending
one, thin Leo dime. Unless, of course, it's to get a reading from me. But
even then, opt for the cheaper route, not the deluxe edition, not right now.
You and I both know that you deserve the deluxe treatment. I'm just
suggesting that right now isn't the best time for you to purchase this
deluxe treatment for yourself. So whether it's a report or reading from me,
or if this is something else, you might want to think twice before you pony
up that credit card number. Go a little easy on the spending. Make sure it's
something you need instead of something you just want. A little delay in the
gratification department goes a long way to saving you from some unwise
decisions.
(c) 2001, 2002 Kramer Wetzel for astrofish.net
--
Kramer Wetzel
http://www.astrofish.net
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Response 603 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Sep 7, 2002 (17:11) * 89 lines
For something completely irrelevant:
Chinese Love Zodiac
Love horoscopes zodiac signs by TraiStar™ presents the following characteristics of each Chinese zodiac love sign.
Dragon
Dragon, like Aries, are independent, enthusiastic about their lover, and fall in love fast.
They are the most domineering of all Chinese zodiac signs, and easily get hot-headed
and quick-tempered when angry. They are most compatible with Rat and Monkey.
Snake
Snake, like Taurus, are physical, sensuous and attracted to beauty. They are also
materialistic and seek their comforts, and get very jealous. They are most compatible
with Ox and Rooster.
Horse
Horse, like Gemini, are youthful, intellectual and charming. They are also impatient and
reckless at times. They have many love interests and find it difficult to commit to one.
They are most compatible with Tiger and Dog.
Sheep
Sheep, like Cancer, are nurturing, sensitive, shy and dependent on their relationship.
When angry, they sometimes sulk rather than confront their partner. They are seeking
the security of home and family. In love, they often are the clingy types. They are most
compatible with Rabbit and Pig.
Monkey
Monkey, like Leo, are entertaining, persuasive and creative. They can also be
mischievous and promiscuous. As lovers they are very playful and passionate. In a
committed relationship, they are loyal and steadfast. They are most compatible with Rat
and Dragon.
Rooster
Rooster, like Virgo, are seekers of perfection in their relationships. They are
industrious, protective and can also be blunt, critical and rude if they don't like
something or someone. As lovers they are discreet, and do not easily reveal their
feelings. They are most compatible with Snake and Ox.
Dog
Dog, like Libra, are caring, unselfish, and make a terrific companion. They are also
fearful of change, do not easily make decisions, and take a long time to heal when hurt.
They demand honesty and equality in their relationship. They are willing to stay by their
partner through thick and thin. They are most compatible with Horse and Tiger.
Pig
Pig, like Scorpio, are diligent, unpretentious and can also be pigheaded and gullible.
They are the sign of good fortune and are generous in their love. They have strong
libidos and demand that their partners satisfy their desires and needs. They are
passionate, and can make great partners with the promise of commitment and
companionship. They are most compatible with Rabbit and Sheep.
Rat
Rat, like Sagittarius, are charismatic, charming, popular and seek companionship. They
are explorers and like to stay active and are definitely not the homebody type. In love
they can be flirtatious, fall in love quickly, but settle down once they find the right partner.
They are most compatible with Dragon and Monkey.
Ox
Ox, like Capricorn, are steadfast, reliable, and sometimes bossy. They are self reliant,
narrow minded and stick to what they know. They are not partiers, but can be intimate in
private. They fall in love slowly, yet remain loyal partners for those who provide them a
steady secure relationship. They are most compatible with Snake and Rooster.
Tiger
Tiger, like Aquarius, are optimistic. They can also be impatient and unconventional,
seeking newer pastures. In love, they are strong and passionate, and can be dominant.
They need a partner who can thrive with excitement everyday. They are most
compatible with Horse and Dog.
Rabbit
Rabbit, like Pisces, are thoughtful, wise, compassionate and sometimes cunning. They
are quite romantic, emotional, and imaginative. They require close intimate
relationships to take them away from the hardness of daily life. They need a partner who
is loyal and can share their heart. They are most compatible with Sheep and Pig.
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Response 604 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Sep 7, 2002 (17:12) * 1 lines
Wolfie, you and I are horses. I think they are wrong about the commitment accessment, but the youthful and charming works! *;)
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Response 605 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Sep 9, 2002 (20:00) * 97 lines
The following makes a lot of sense to me -p especially since I was singled out in airport screening for thorough checks. I am NOT a threatening sort of person!
Subject: Politically Correct Airport Screeners
To ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent
on killing us, airport screeners will not be allowed to profile people.
They will continue random searches of 80 year old women, little kids,
airline pilots with proper identification, Secret Service Agents, who are
members of the President's security detail, 85 year old Congressmen with
metal hips and Medal of Honor Winners.
Please pause for a moment and take the following test:
In 1972, at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred
by:
(a) Olga Kobut
(b) Sitting Bull
(c) Arnold Schwartzenegger
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
(a) Lost Norwegians
(b) Elvis
(c) A tour bus full of 80 year old women
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
During the 1980s, a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebabnon by:
(a) Bart Simpson
(b) The King of Sweden
(c) The Boy Scouts
(d) Muslim Males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by
(a) A pizza delivery boy
(b) Pee Wee Herman
(c) Geraldo Rivera
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old
American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard by:
(a) The Smurfs
(b) Pamela Lee Anderson
(c) The Little Mermaid
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked in Athens, and a US Navy diver was
murdered by:
(a) Captain Kidd
(b) Charles Lindberg
(c) Mother Teresa
(d) Muslim Males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
(a) Scooby Doo
(b) The Tooth Fairy
(c) Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by:
(a) The Backstreet Boys
(b) Grandma Moses
(c) Dr. Pepper
(d) Muslim Males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 1988, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
(a) Mr. Rodgers
(b) The Muppets
(c) The World Wrestling Federation
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked and crashed into the World
Center, the Pentagon and an open field in Shanksville, PA, wherein
thousands of people were killed by:
(a) Wile E. Coyote
(b) The Supreme Court of Florida
(c) Mr. Bean
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 2002, the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
(a) Enron
(b) The Lutheran Church
(c) The NFL
(d) Muslim males between the ages of 17 & 40
In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
(a) Bonnie and Clyde
(b) Captain Kangaroo
(c) Billy Graham
(d) Muslim Males between the ages of 17 & 40
NOPE, NO PATTERN HERE!!!!!!!! AND, IF YOU THINK YOU FOUND
ONE, FORGET IT! IT WOULDN'T BE POLITICALLY CORRECT AND
COULD POSSIBLY OFFEND SOMEONE....
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Response 606 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Sep 10, 2002 (20:09) * 24 lines
For September 11th... it is nice to know we are not alone;
MEMORIAL FOR THE 9/11 VICTIMS IN THESSALONIKI
A memorial service for the victims of the 9/11 terrorist strike was held today at
the US Consul of Thessaloniki.
In his short speech after the service, the Minister of Macedonia-Thrace, Giorgos
Paschalidis, noted that Greece shares the pain of the American people and
characteized security as a basic human right.
The Mayor of Thessaloniki, Vassilis Papageorgopoulos, testified the grief of
Thessaloniki citizens and stressed that the souls of the victims send out a
message to rebuild a safe global society, while he expressed his opinion that the
war against terror has started bearing results.
US Consul General in Thessaloniki John Coenig thanked all Greeks for their
solidarity to the US, which he assured them America will never forget. Mr. Coenig
ended by saying that "together we can make the world a safer place".
The ceremony was attended and given a human dimension by Greek American
fireman from NY, Peter Critsimilios, who stated that New York firemen will
continue to go through the debris until everyone lost is brought home.
http://www.goGreece.com/news/headlines/story.html?id=8046
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Response 607 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Sep 10, 2002 (21:57) * 33 lines
Homeland Security Threat Level has
been rasied to HIGH ALERT (Orange) from Yellow.
The announcement is official
this afternoon Sep 10, 2002 from news conference
help by Attorney General John Ashcroft.
EXPLANATION of Orange Shown Below
Detailed information on the NEW
Homeland Security Coded Advisory System
codes and explanation can be found at
http://www.emergencyemail.org/homeland
A printable version is also available for posting.
Please forward this information to those you think
may benefit and for e-mail and wireless signup.
THE EMERGENCY EMAIL NETWORK, INC.
http://www.emergencyemail.org/
..................................................................
ORANGE THREAT EXPLANATION
High risk of terrorist attacks.
In addition to the previously outlined Protective Measures, the following
may be applied:
Coordinating necessary security efforts with armed forces or law
enforcement agencies;
Taking additional precaution at public events;
Preparing to work at an alternate site or with a
dispersed workforce; and Restricting access to essential personnel only.
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Response 608 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Sep 10, 2002 (21:58) * 1 lines
I know people who will not go to work in major metropolitan cities tomorrow! I plan to fly next week. I hope they have it sorted out by then.
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Response 609 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Sep 11, 2002 (12:42) * 1 lines
This should not beed to be said, but from listening to a lot oc opionions lately, it needs to be reiterated. That airline security file I posted should have read RADICAL Muslim msn. To accuse all Muslims of being radical is unthinkable. Sikander grieves with all peace-loving people and I am concerned for his well-being. He has not checked in lately.
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Response 610 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Sep 15, 2002 (17:05) * 1 lines
I fly eastward tomorrow. Wish me luck.I'll let you know how my airport ordeal was. I feel like a veteran and it does not bother me to be searched.
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Response 611 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Mon, Sep 23, 2002 (12:06) * 1 lines
Happy Autumnal Equinox! Except for Rob and Anne, to whom I should wish a Happy Vernal Equinox! Has anybody tried to balance an egg on its end today?
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Response 612 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Mon, Sep 23, 2002 (20:30) * 1 lines
is it too late?
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Response 613 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Mon, Sep 23, 2002 (20:33) * 1 lines
(ok, i tried it and mine rolled all over the place)
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Response 614 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (06:19) * 5 lines
Hi all,
Oh I missed the Autumnal Equinox! We are travelling closer to the Sun with increasing velocity. What is this story about balancing an egg?
John
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Response 615 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Tue, Sep 24, 2002 (10:29) * 3 lines
John, the story about the egg is that on two days out of the year, the Vernal Equinox and the Autumnal Equinox, an egg can be balanced on it's end and remain that way for some time. The exact reasons for this have to do with the positioning of the Earth on its axis on those two particular days.
A TV station in Pittsburgh balanced an egg during the weather segment of the morning news and when I caught the evening news; the egg was still balanced.
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Response 616 of 1049: John Tsatsaragos (tsatsvol) * Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (05:24) * 12 lines
Hi Cheryl, Wolfie, and all,
Thank you Cheryl for the information about the egg balancing. I had not heard about it before. But I feel that something is not in the correct position. Are you sure that this is possible during equinoxes and not any other time?
I am naturally "doubting Thomas". I must always understand and explain the WHY!
I have also some knowledge of astronomy as amateur astronomer. I searched the eventuality if it can be true this story. I found that there is no any astronomical reason why you should be able to balance raw eggs on the equinoxes as opposed to any other day.
In fact, you can balance a raw egg on end on any day, if you are lucky or enough patient in order to try! You will have success finally. I subscribe it.
The story of the balancing eggs must be a myth that came from the past.
John
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Response 617 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (07:20) * 1 lines
I had never heard of the egg, either. Unhappily I did not have any eggs in the house so I could not try balancing it. John's right about the raw egg. So is the fact that a cooked egg will spin very nicely, but a raw one will just sit there due to the fluid inside which has more drag.
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Response 618 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Sep 25, 2002 (18:59) * 3 lines
i've heard the egg balancing story before but i can't get it to work.
marcia, any idea why we've lost the graphics in here?
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Response 619 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Sep 27, 2002 (20:33) * 3 lines
Only that Terry has been doing massive restructuring of Spring. You will also note that John has been unable to update his seismic graphs or is doing so from his website research because we cannot FTP either.
*sigh*
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Response 620 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Mon, Oct 7, 2002 (16:33) * 8 lines
Hi Marci
Still alive but been tied up with work annoyances for the past couple
of weeks - anyway, hope to be more frequent.
73 de AA9IL
Mike
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Response 621 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Oct 7, 2002 (16:41) * 1 lines
Darn those annoyances!
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Response 622 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Tue, Oct 8, 2002 (18:37) * 5 lines
*sigh* Yup, annoyances happen on the road to improvement. I think they call it character-building. Annoyances fits better, though. Glad to have you check in from time to time. I'll bet you are having colder weather, too.
Now, if only Sikander would check in. I worry about him!
Are these little squares yours, too, Terry???
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Response 623 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Oct 8, 2002 (18:46) * 1 lines
Little squares?
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Response 624 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Wed, Oct 9, 2002 (19:46) * 1 lines
For a while yesterday everything on Geo had little programming squares between each letter of each word of titles and all things except for posted text. Very strange! I should have photograhped it for you with a screen capture.
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Response 625 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Wed, Oct 9, 2002 (22:20) * 1 lines
still can't see any pics though....
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Response 626 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (06:10) * 1 lines
Maybe it's a permissions problem, I'll look in to it.
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Response 627 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (18:12) * 3 lines
Most items are restored except for the graphics which make up the title on the index page. I am delighted John's graphics are restored to the portal page.
I suspect the permission is disabled or generic and can't find Geo's graphics.
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Response 628 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Oct 10, 2002 (21:01) * 2 lines
I need more details! Email me exact info as soon as you notice it, let me know exactly what you were trying to do, what username/pwd etc. you were using and exactly which directory/file you were updating.
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Response 629 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 13, 2002 (20:37) * 5 lines
John!!! I need to talk to you. I'm not sure where you have your files but they are in Geo. I'll email you, Terry. I did manage to make an ersatz title while we untangle this graphics difficulty with John's work
Test...
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Response 630 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 13, 2002 (20:54) * 5 lines
Ok, that works! Now what is wrong with the title page of Geo...
test...
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Response 631 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 13, 2002 (20:55) * 1 lines
Aha! http://www.spring.net/geo/JohnVolos/Public is not visible on the internet AND CANNOT BE SEEN TO FUNCTION AS A PART OF GEO!
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Response 632 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Oct 14, 2002 (11:50) * 1 lines
I'll take a look right away.
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Response 633 of 1049: Curious Wolfie (wolf) * Mon, Oct 14, 2002 (15:12) * 1 lines
terry-please fix topic 34 (space science news) it keeps showing up and there's nothing to see. once i take a look see, the topic still shows up as unread!
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Response 634 of 1049: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Oct 14, 2002 (15:24) * 1 lines
ok will fix
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Response 635 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Oct 14, 2002 (15:46) * 60 lines
Things work well now for both John and for me asregardsGeo. Thank you VERY much, Terry!!!
My son sent this to me.... not comforting!
Thursday, October 10, 2002
Pentagon admits troops unaware of chemical tests
Thousands of Hawaii civilians also did not know they were being sprayed with bacteria
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By Matt Kelley Associated Press
WASHINGTON: The Pentagon acknowledged yesterday that some soldiers engaged in chemical and biological weapons testing in the 1960s may not have been
fully informed about the
secret experiments conducted at sea and in five states from Hawaii to Florida. Some tests used the military's deadliest nerve agent, VX.
Thousands of civilians in Hawaii and Alaska also probably were unaware they were sprayed with relatively mild bacteria meant to simulate germ weapons
such as anthrax, the Defense
Department's top health official said.
Dr. William Winkenwerder, assistant defense secretary for health affairs, said there is no evidence anyone died as a result of the classified tests,
which were part of biological
and chemical warfare programs the United States abandoned in 1970.
Four people at the military's Deseret Testing Center in Utah were infected during biological weapons work, but all recovered, said Dr. Michael
Kilpatrick, another Pentagon health
official. Records do not show who the people were or what germs infected them, Kilpatrick said.
At a news conference, the Pentagon released declassified summaries of 28 of the tests, showing for the first time the scope of open-air testing of
chemical and biological agents
on American soil. About 5,500 service members participated in the tests.
"It's pretty deplorable that the DOD held this info up for so long," said Rep. Mike Thompson, D-Calif., at a House Veterans Affairs subcommittee
hearing.
The agency has commissioned a $3 million study to determine if test participants are getting sick because of their exposure.
So far, 55 veterans have filed claims with the VA blaming their health problems on their participation in chemical or biological tests.
The civilian exposures came during tests in Alaska and Hawaii that involved spraying Bacillis globigii, a bacterial relative of anthrax, from
airplanes.
At the time, BG was considered to be harmless.
Later, researchers discovered it could cause infections in people with weak immune systems.
One of the tests, called "Big Tom," involved spraying the bacteria over Oahu in May and June 1965.
Winkenwerder said there is evidence that local authorities were told of the tests, though public notification probably did not occur.
Two other tests in Hawaii, named "Pine Ridge" and "Tall Timber," used a chemical agent code-named BZ in forest preserves southwest of Hilo. BZ, a
compound of benzilic acid,
causes stupor, hallucinations and confusion. It was meant to incapacitate enemy soldiers, according to Pentagon summaries of the tests.
For example, from April through June 1966, bomblets containing BZ were ignited in the upper Waiakea Forest Preserve.
The Pine Ridge and Tall Timber tests were meant to determine how to disseminate BZ "in or below a jungle canopy," the test summaries said.
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U.S. DoD Deployment Health Support
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Response 636 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Mon, Oct 21, 2002 (10:54) * 13 lines
Hi all
lovely news... makes me wonder if the 'flu season' is a bit more than
it is...
Anyway, still alive in backgroung mode but enjoy reading Geo posts (Hi Marci!)
Only a couple more weeks of this grad skool semester and the eventual
completion of the rebuilding of the radio room and life might return to some
form of normalcy (whatever that is....)
73 de AA9IL
Mike
r-c-i
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Response 637 of 1049: Cheryl (CherylB) * Thu, Oct 24, 2002 (16:12) * 3 lines
Marcia, love the "Coprolite Happens" graphic.
Mike, good luck in attaining normality, or nomalcy, or whatever. I hope you have better luck than I have lately.
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Response 638 of 1049: _cosmo_ (aa9il) * Fri, Oct 25, 2002 (10:15) * 7 lines
Hi Cheryl
Not sure if I could identify normality if I saw it. Constancy of the
current observed reality is probably what Im looking for.
de Mike
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Response 639 of 1049: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Oct 25, 2002 (16:49) * 3 lines
Big good luck Hugs, Mike! Lesser men than you have survived grad school and lived to tell the tale. Go get 'em!
Yeah,My thoughts exactly about flu season. UGH. I thought pollution was bad on the mainland, but at least here you can see 
